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    Quote Originally Posted by ArizonaXUGrad View Post
    This delay is basically Merrick Garland with a reason. The reason isn't ironclad for sure and tenuous, but the idea is the same.
    And if Democrats owned the Senate at Garland time, they'd have scheduled a vote and told Republicans to fuck themselves. Republicans need to do the same unless something real comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoMuskies View Post
    And if Democrats owned the Senate at Garland time, they'd have scheduled a vote and told Republicans to fuck themselves. Republicans need to do the same unless something real comes out.
    Because of Garland and McConnell, justice nominees are now more political than ever. This can either go on and on and on, or McConnell can take this one in the teeth and stop the rhetoric.

    I don't even count Bork here, that guy rubber stamped the firing of Cox for Nixon. He didn't deserve the nomination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArizonaXUGrad View Post
    Because of Garland and McConnell, justice nominees are now more political than ever. This can either go on and on and on, or McConnell can take this one in the teeth and stop the rhetoric.
    McConnell pulling Kavanaugh won't stop anything. If Dems know this tactic works, it will be open season. Absent something more concrete coming out, the Republicans HAVE to schedule a vote and confirm Kavanaugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoMuskies View Post
    And if Democrats owned the Senate at Garland time, they'd have scheduled a vote and told Republicans to fuck themselves. Republicans need to do the same unless something real comes out.
    Love how people like you know what the Democrats would have done. The psychological term for your hypothetical is "projection".
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoMuskies View Post
    If Democrats had owned the Senate at the time of Garland's confirmation, you don't think they would have called for a vote and confirmed Garland?

    Or perhaps there's a Xavier faculty member not capable of reading and following a conversation? That's not a good look.
    My point is more along the lines of the revenge factor. Gorsuch filled the court but really replaced a conservative in Scalia. Garland should have done that but he would have been a centrist with a slight left lean. Kavanaugh is a hard right justice. He isn't a Kennedy replacement he is an outright attempt to toss the court right for a few decades.

    The revenge factor would be getting Kavanaugh's nomination tabled in a response to Garland. Both parties get the black eye and it's next judge up. If the House/Senate doesn't flip, there is no way another Trump nomination gets rolled unless they are so partisan that neither party approves. If it does flip, he has to learn to play fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArizonaXUGrad View Post
    My point is more along the lines of the revenge factor.
    No, I completely agree with your point. However, Democrats obviously would not have allowed Republicans to hold up the Garland nomination if they held the Senate. Republicans shouldn't let Dems hold it up now. And it's a TERRIBLE precedent if the Republicans allow the accusations (without more) to fell one of their candidates. And if it worked, I don't think there's even a slight chance the Democrats would stop using it after this one instance. Why quit on a winning strategy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoMuskies View Post
    No, I completely agree with your point. However, Democrats obviously would not have allowed Republicans to hold up the Garland nomination if they held the Senate. Republicans shouldn't let Dems hold it up now. And it's a TERRIBLE precedent if the Republicans allow the accusations (without more) to fell one of their candidates. And if it worked, I don't think there's even a slight chance the Democrats would stop using it after this one instance. Why quit on a winning strategy?
    On Meet the Press Patty Murray said the Democrats might look to reinstate the nomination filibuster if they took congress. Ah man that was a good one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-man View Post
    Love how people like you know what the Democrats would have done. The psychological term for your hypothetical is "projection".
    That's better than being delusional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XU 87 View Post
    That's better than being delusional.
    Helpful as always, 87. If someone disagrees with you or says something you don't like, they're delusional. Nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caf View Post
    On Meet the Press Patty Murray said the Democrats might look to reinstate the nomination filibuster if they took congress. Ah man that was a good one!
    I think they'd totally do that...so long as they had 61 Senate seats.

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