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    My point is Dems are using their strongest issue to effect our National elections, because most voters do not understand Washington no longer effects abortion rights. Republicans, for some reason, are ALLOWING this deception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuperman View Post
    My point is Dems are using their strongest issue to effect our National elections, because most voters do not understand Washington no longer effects abortion rights. Republicans, for some reason, are ALLOWING this deception.
    It remains very much a federal issue that would be subject to federal legislation and federal agency action.

    The Comstock Act remains on the books and an anti-choice AG, appointed by the president, could choose to attempt to use that law to prevent the transportation of any medical equipment across state-lines that could be used in an abortion procedure.

    The FDA regulates drugs used in abortion procedures. This agency is also under the control of the executive branch and subject to federal legislation.

    The federal legislature could also pass a national abortion ban or pass a law codifying Roe. Any hospital that doesn't abide by the law could see their federal funding stripped (which would kill most hospitals).

    And then there is always the power to appoint judges who will interpret all of these laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STL_XUfan View Post
    The Comstock Act remains on the books and an anti-choice AG, appointed by the president, could choose to attempt to use that law to prevent the transportation of any medical equipment across state-lines that could be used in an abortion procedure.
    So it's key to make there there's an anti-life AG, obviously!

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    Quote Originally Posted by STL_XUfan View Post
    It remains very much a federal issue that would be subject to federal legislation and federal agency action.

    The Comstock Act remains on the books and an anti-choice AG, appointed by the president, could choose to attempt to use that law to prevent the transportation of any medical equipment across state-lines that could be used in an abortion procedure.

    The FDA regulates drugs used in abortion procedures. This agency is also under the control of the executive branch and subject to federal legislation.

    The federal legislature could also pass a national abortion ban or pass a law codifying Roe. Any hospital that doesn't abide by the law could see their federal funding stripped (which would kill most hospitals).

    And then there is always the power to appoint judges who will interpret all of these laws.
    This is the other things politicians like to harp on, fear. This all has little to no chance of ever happening

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    This is the other things politicians like to harp on, fear. This all has little to no chance of ever happening
    That was an excellent post by STL.

    Those things are at least possible. A National abortion ban is impossible....yet it continues to come up and the Republicans allow it. Just imagine how many voters believe Trump is going to sign a National ban.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    This is the other things politicians like to harp on, fear. This all has little to no chance of ever happening
    Both Alito an Thomas raised the Comstock act in the oral arguments in FDA vs. Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_ar...2-235_q8l1.pdf. They ended up kicking the case on a standing issue, but they seemed interested in litigating whether the mailing of mifepristone violated that law.
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    The problem with the abortion issue is the extremes on both sides. You’ve got the far right wanting it banned in all cases without exception. You’ve got the far left wanting it available up to the moment of birth for any reason. I think most people would be in favor of abortion being allowed in cases or rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother. I think they’d also be in favor of a ban after viability, or some other period of time unless it’s to save the life of the mother. Of course, neither of those will likely ever happen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Xville View Post
    It's pretty simple really. If you repeat the lie long enough, people believe it. Democrats have repeated over and over that the Republicans want to take away your rights (this sounds familiar) and insert a federal abortion ban.

    People on both sides believe things like this because they are at best uninformed, and more likely just stupid.
    There literally are states that have tried or passed laws doing exactly that.

    My own state currently has it on the ballot. It is a huge issue because many people either have had a medical necessity for it or knows someone who has had a medical necessity for it. When Pub laws are put on the books, doctors will flinch and delay to make sure they aren't breaking them. Delays can and will inevitably cause problems. Abortion should absolutely be legal. The best way to limit elective abortions is to give women hope that having the child is the best choice.

    XUBREW, I am exactly the same way. I really only know the parts of the world I have travelled and those that I watch Cup qualifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArizonaXUGrad View Post
    Abortion should absolutely be legal.
    Let's just say....opinions differ.

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