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06-02-2020, 10:24 AM #5851
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06-02-2020, 10:27 AM #5852
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06-02-2020, 10:27 AM #5853
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06-02-2020, 10:28 AM #5854
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Ferguson? Cincinnati? Baltimore?
The thing that irks me about trump haters is that everything wrong is blamed on him...it is his fault floyd died and it's his fault minorities are where they are. I think it is more prudent to look toward the democratic led cities (for decades) of st louis, Minneapolis, Detroit, Baltimore as the true reasons.
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06-02-2020, 10:32 AM #5855
I think that's a bit of an over simplification. Other than a bunch of fringe whackos on twitter and probably some local politicians I don't see a lot of legitimate people condoning the burning or looting. Yes, they are on the left side of the political spectrum. They have a fringe too, just like the racists on the far right are a fringe that doesn't represent the views of the entire party.
I also think that the overall state of the country in a given election cycle, particularly when an incumbent President is running for reelection, can have a significant impact. If come November we still have COVID outbreaks, high unemployement, and social unrest I think it will weigh on Trump's reelection chances.Eat Donuts!
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06-02-2020, 10:38 AM #5856
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06-02-2020, 10:42 AM #5857
Ferguson, Cincinnati, and Baltimore were all relatively isolated riots. They spread in some pockets, but nothing like what we have seen with this.
Minorities vote Democrat, which is why all major cities are 'Democratic Led'. The two are related, but not in the way that I think you think they are: The same disadvantaged minorities that elected the Democrats are also frustrated with their overall treatment, and particularly treatment at the hand of the Police. I don't believe that they are entirely correct, and I definitely don't believe that they are going about expressing their 'frustration' in the right way. I also don't think that the Country can just ignore it. Where does that lead?
I don't believe that we have a racist system in America, but I do believe that we have a system that can feel/seem very racist. What we really have is a system designed to (in general) keep money and power in the hands of those who already have it (and their descendants). African Americans (among other groups) have not generally been able to participate in this system as they started out significantly disadvantaged. All the affirmative action in the world hasn't overcome that.
I'm also acutely aware of the fact that I am a tremendous net beneficiary of this system. It doesn't mean I don't work hard or earn what I have. It just means I have benefited tremendously for almost my whole life, as I would wager a good many of us have.Eat Donuts!
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06-02-2020, 11:01 AM #5858
I think CNN et al are coming around, but there was definitely a lot of "this destruction is just a legitimate expression of rage" going on at first. And I don't necessarily disagree with what you've said, but the mainstream portion of a party always gets tainted by their extreme wing.
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06-02-2020, 11:03 AM #5859"I’m willing to sacrifice everything for this team. I’m going to dive for every loose ball, close out harder on every shot, block out for every rebound. I’m going to play harder than I’ve ever played. And I need you all to follow me." -MB '17
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06-02-2020, 11:14 AM #5860
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