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    So excited to see what Liz does next [Sarcasm font]! Not supporting Donald Trump, what an exciting vision for the future of the nation. How long will our political parties be defined by their opinion of DJT? It's clearly what will define this election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    I guess this is more my idea of "negotiating."



    https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-111



    https://www.cga.ct.gov/2016/rpt/2016-R-0245.htm

    Maybe if they had real negotiating, they would lower the Medicare Drug costs by 54% to be the same as the VA?
    We are talking around each other. You keep showing examples of negotiating the actual price the government pays for drugs. And yes before yesterday, the government couldnít do that directly with Medicare.

    However, Iím referring to how much money the Medicare patient is saving now based off their negotiations with pharma. If these negotiations didnít take place today, the patient would still be on the hook for over $11,000 out of pocket costs annually. That is how the Medicare PDP was designed. Now, that burden has decreased by 50%. Iím sorry, but this sounds like ďrealĒ negotiations to me.

    Why do you think Congress put a cap on out of pocket pocket costs with this new bill (gee, wonder where they got this idea)? They knew just lowering what they pay would not guarantee to be a cost saver for the patient. Nothing like telling the patient I got mine but you are out of luck.

    You have an uncanny ability to have me defend industries and people that I donít necessary like to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caf View Post
    So excited to see what Liz does next [Sarcasm font]! Not supporting Donald Trump, what an exciting vision for the future of the nation. How long will our political parties be defined by their opinion of DJT? It's clearly what will define this election.
    I think it's obvious that tRump will organize his merry band of election deniers and try to fix the election again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Brew View Post
    None.

    However, she may steal some from Biden if she runs as an I.
    She voted with tRump 93% of the time. Dems won't vote for her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noteggs View Post
    You have an uncanny ability to have me defend industries and people that I don’t necessary like to.
    Not intentional. While there were some cost saving measures before, nothing like the direct negotiating could get you like it got the veterans.

    Hopefully all seniors can now benefit at that level.
    ...he went up late, and I was already up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee View Post
    She voted with tRump 93% of the time. Dems won't vote for her.
    She’ll likely be on The View next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuperman View Post
    Maybe Yang's "Forward" party would come a callin'.
    Not sure how many states the Forward party would even be on the ballot, but I doubt it's all 50 at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Brew View Post
    She’ll likely be on The View next.
    Yeah…or MSNBC
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulxu View Post
    Not intentional. While there were some cost saving measures before, nothing like the direct negotiating could get you like it got the veterans.

    Hopefully all seniors can now benefit at that level.
    Well if you take in consideration 43 million people are enrolled in a plan d program and $5,250 per patient is a pretty big chunk of change. If you do the math, thatís $215 billion in potential savings to the patient in out of pocket costs.

    Also, any comparison to VA benefits is apples to oranges. Ask any healthcare professional. Yes I know, in your mind there shouldnít be.

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    Very few ever reach the max out of pocket on Part D. 1.5 million in 2019.
    Last edited by bobbiemcgee; 08-18-2022 at 02:59 PM.
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