Politics Thread

**GoMuskies** · 11-06-2019, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by xubrew

Trump was right about one thing. His base was so fed up with the left that he could shoot someone in broad daylight and the base would still back him.

And the Senators who will decide his fate largely represent people from the states that make up that base. At this point it would be political suicide for them to vote to remove. Commentators from California, NY and DC (and XavierHoops) can blast those senators all they want, but the people who will vote for or against those Senators are the ones they are going to side with when it comes time to vote on removal.

**Xville** · 11-06-2019, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by xubrew

They SHOULD care, but they DON'T.

Trump was right about one thing. His base was so fed up with the left that he could shoot someone in broad daylight and the base would still back him. So no, they do not care about any of that. Truth be told I'm having a hard time coming up with something that he could legitimately do that would cause his backers to stop backing him. Impeachment MIGHT actually work to his advantage in the long run. He won't be removed, and if he can get out there and grand stand the way he always does, and use that grandstanding to fire up his supporters the way he always does, then it may actually end up feeding the beast and making it stronger.

If the democratic party have any sense at all, they will nominate a moderate and stop with the medicare for all etc. A moderate that is not a disgusting human being (hard to find in politics) can beat trump. I voted for trump in the last election, but if the democrats nominate someone outside of the pocahontas Warren or bern medicare for all camp, I'll probably vote d this time around.

**GoMuskies** · 11-06-2019, 08:51 AM

Andrew Yang would murder Trump (like the Clintons murdered Epstein) in a general. His ideas aren't exactly moderate, but he's a decent human being who treats all sides of the political spectrum with respect and is also willing to admit that he is a capitalist. He's got ACTUAL, workable, politically palatable solutions for the problems that gave rise to the Trump base in the first place.

**xubrew** · 11-06-2019, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by Xville

If the democratic party have any sense at all,

I'm sorry. I stopped reading after the first half of your first sentence.

**X-man** · 11-06-2019, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by GoMuskies

This isn't about me. Look around. Impeachment is barely making a ripple. The Senate isn't going to remove, and the only people who are going to care are people who wanted Trump out day one no matter what. There's an election next year to really decide whether to remove.

What about you, though? Is there anything Trump could do that would cause you to support impeachment and removal?

**GoMuskies** · 11-06-2019, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by X-man

What about you, though? Is there anything Trump could do that would cause you to support impeachment and removal?

Sure, but I'm not going to get bound up by it at this point, because it's not going to happen for this. I didn't vote for Trump last time, and I won't vote for Trump next time, but I also don't have Trump Derangement Syndrome. We're going to be fine.

**X-man** · 11-06-2019, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by GoMuskies

Sure, but I'm not going to get bound up by it at this point, because it's not going to happen for this. I didn't vote for Trump last time, and I won't vote for Trump next time, but I also don't have Trump Derangement Syndrome. We're going to be fine.

Just give an example, please. That will help me understand why lying, obstruction, misusing public funds for personal political gain, and co-opting Department Secretaries (that means you Barr, Pompeio, and Perry) into conducting purely partisan activity at the expense of policy and departmental integrity.