Right. All of those things are fine, and I understand why someone who holds those views would vote for Trump. I don't understand why you would continue to defend him. You know that you can vote for someone as the lesser of two evils without convincing yourself that they are somehow a good candidate or President?
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07-01-2020, 07:37 PM #6281Eat Donuts!
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07-01-2020, 07:39 PM #6282
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Ok...so no one is changing anyone’s opinion. Wash, rinse, repeat. Got it. I agree that this political thread may be the most civil on the internet...but...yuck.
Name calling has got to stop. Aren’t we better than this? I know the President isn’t...doesn’t mean we can’t be.Last edited by Nigel Tufnel; 07-01-2020 at 07:49 PM.
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07-01-2020, 08:28 PM #6283
I don't care what political party you are. That's why I put you/Democrats.
He's not the first Republican to abandon fiscal conservatism, he's simply the first one to not promise to be one (and then abandon it like they all do).
I think Trump was unfair to Cruz. To the others, I found it sometimes pretty dumb but funny. But if I'm forgetting something really over the line, then I could be corrected. For instance, "Little Marco" is dumb, not offensive, but for some reason I find hilarious.
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07-01-2020, 08:30 PM #6284
Wish Trump wasn’t such an asshole, has trouble telling the truth and so arrogant. With that said, I have enjoyed some his policies. The First step act, tax cuts, nominating libertarian leaning Gorsuch, what he’s done for the economy, allowing states to make their own decisions during covid to name a few.
Of course the bad (the ones aforementioned at the beginning) outrageous spending and what it’s done to our deficit, not setting a good example during covid, lack of empathy at times (minus First Step), and hurting our image with our allies (note: I don’t mind expecting them to pay their fair share). Believe it or not, their are some who just like some the results and don’t follow him blindly as you have described.
Finally, you’re right, politics is dirty and Trump has gotten out of control several times. However, I also agree with Juice. MSM helps Democrats shape their message of branding Republicans as being intolerant, which they never seem to defend themselves. I’m sure for some, they finally have someone who isn’t shy calling out MSM’s bullshit.Last edited by noteggs; 07-01-2020 at 08:42 PM. Reason: Typo
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07-01-2020, 08:50 PM #6285
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07-01-2020, 09:05 PM #6286
I agree with a lot of this. I'm against deficit funded tax cuts , so while I enjoyed the extra money (partially offset by SALT changes) I wasn't a fan from a policy perspective. I wasn't bent out of shape about it though.
I think it's unfortunate that they went full Trump from a 'defending themselves' perspective . That's a pretty big step change. Along with that I think that the Republican party compromised way too may of (what used to be) their core values just to have a guy who 'calls out the media'. I don't really know how big of a win that was from a policy perspective.
Just consider the juxtaposition between a party who values independence and states rights and the pseudo-totalitarian rhetoric that Trump frequently employs. How do you balance those two beliefs? Assume/hope he's just kidding?Eat Donuts!
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07-01-2020, 09:06 PM #6287
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07-01-2020, 09:23 PM #6288
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07-02-2020, 12:15 AM #6289
What are these pseudo-totalitarian statements that Trump speaks? Please expound.
On another note, this is getting out of control. Another person fired for simply stating, "I despair for our future as a nation if we do not stand up against violence against anyone. BLACK LIVES MATTER, but also, EVERYONE'S LIFE MATTERS."
How many people have been fired recently for saying that? The tolerant left...yep.
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07-02-2020, 01:10 AM #6290
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