Those Glaciers have been melting for 10,000 years. Scientists have always believed that they would continue to melt and be gone. Nobody ever said that they would be there forever. That is the direction we have been headed for millennium. Ohio used to have more glacial ice than Glacier National Park. Thank God that ice pack is gone. So I should be alarmed that glaciers are going away that we have known will go away because SCIENCE!
You watch some of the news campaigns with that knowledge and you see what a clever promotional tool this is. They have had an uptick in tourism, which is worth a billion dollars a year now. Why? Because they have "made several top 10 lists" and the reason to visit is to come and see the glaciers before they are gone. It is brilliant, I tip my hat off to them.
As with anything in regards to Global Warming, follow the money.
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06-30-2015, 11:39 AM #1021RIP Brian Dargin McCormick
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06-30-2015, 12:08 PM #1022
Some of these posts are laugh out loud funny. Lumping slow and gradual melting for 10,000 years (which is factually incorrect by the way) into distinct and clear cut heightened melting in the last few decades into one category as if nothing conclusive can be drawn is a personal favorite.
Last edited by SemajParlor; 06-30-2015 at 12:16 PM.
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06-30-2015, 12:18 PM #1023
current glaciers are considered geologically new, having formed about ~7,000 thousand years ago. These glaciers grew substantially during the Little Ice Age (LIA) that began around 1400 A.D and reached their maximum size at the end of the LIA around A.D.1850. Their maximum sizes can be inferred from the mounds of rock and soil left behind by glaciers, known as moraines (Key, 2002), which provide a scientific baseline for comparison to current glacial extent.
http://nrmsc.usgs.gov/research/glacier_retreat.htmLast edited by SemajParlor; 06-30-2015 at 12:20 PM.
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06-30-2015, 12:58 PM #1024
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06-30-2015, 01:16 PM #1025
What about the first sentence?
While the glaciers that carved GNP’s majestic peaks were part of a glaciation that ended about 12,000 years ago, current glaciers are considered geologically new, having formed about ~7,000 thousand years ago. These glaciers grew substantially during the Little Ice Age (LIA) that began around 1400 A.D and reached their maximum size at the end of the LIA around A.D.1850. Their maximum sizes can be inferred from the mounds of rock and soil left behind by glaciers, known as moraines (Key, 2002), which provide a scientific baseline for comparison to current glacial extent.
And what of the LIA, the Little Ice Age? It goes for 450 years from your article of ice expansion. And then they have been melting for the last 165 years. And what does this have to do with man made climate change? It seems you are documenting natural cycles that ebb and flow over hundreds and thousands of years. Montana became a State in 1889. It was first settled in the 1860s. Those glaciers have been melting since before we got there, and it is part of a process that is beyond our power.
And what is factually incorrect that I said? Are you going to point to the fact that glaciers haven't melted consistently over the past 12,000 years as your proof? Is that the point that you are making? I agree that you that the "Little Ice Age" is real and happened. Michael Mann is a famous alarmist scientist who studied tree cores, and his "Hockey Stick" diagram totally ignores the Little Ice Age. It is a complete fabrication from a man who made adjustments to the climate record. "Mikes Nature Trick" to "hide the decline".
I realize that history of climate isn't linear. But 12,000 years ago their were huge glaciers in what is now Glacier National Park. From your research they are already all gone today, and seem to have vanished hundreds of years before the Europeans ever set foot on this continent. I for one think this is a promising development. A warmer and wetter world will be a much better place to live. I am glad that most of Ohio is still not covered with ice, because I doubt I would live here.RIP Brian Dargin McCormick
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06-30-2015, 01:20 PM #1026
And would anyone want to visit Glacier National Park if it was just one huge Ice Pack? Are the mountains, valleys, rivers, lakes and cliffs park of the spectacular beauty? If it was all ice, what fun is that. If that is what you want, go to Antarctica. You can go there and enjoy the beauty of a whole landscape covered with ice. And nothing lives there either. What fun that would be. Antarctica has actually been gaining ice for decades of global warming. Funny thing that is, that global warming.
RIP Brian Dargin McCormick
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06-30-2015, 01:44 PM #1027
It's 67 in Cincinnati today. I'm concerned about seeing glaciers in Cincinnati in the next year or two if the weather doesn't warm up.
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06-30-2015, 01:47 PM #1028
Gonna have to change the Cincy mascots to The Eskimos.
Unless that's racist.
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06-30-2015, 02:03 PM #1029
The increase in "sea ice" in Antarctic is more than offset by the decrease in Arctic sea ice.
The more pressing concern is the glacier melt down there, and the possibility of large sheets dropping off raising sea levels.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/e...he-south-pole/...he went up late, and I was already up there.
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06-30-2015, 02:23 PM #1030
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