Big East Sports

[Muskie]

What programs do you think X will add that some of our new conference mates have?

I know we have Club LAX for instance. Is this a sport X is willing to invest in? What are some others?

[Muskie]

He's a rough idea what everyone has:

School I LaX I Soccer I Baseball I Cross Country I Track/Field I Golf I Tennis I Swimming/Diving I Football (type) I
Marq I_X___I__X____I________I____X________I____X______I __X___I__X___I_________________I_____________I
GtownI__X__I__X____I__X_____I____X________I____X__ ____I__X___I__X___I________X________I__X (FCS)_____I
Nova I__X__I__X____I__X_____I____X________I____X______I __X___I__X___I________X________I__X (FCS)_____I
John'sI__X__I__X____I__X_____I_____________I______ _____I__X___I__X___I_________________I____________ _I
Prov I__X__I__X____I________I____X________I____X______I ______I______I________X________I_____________I
S Hall I_____I__X____I___X____I____X________I___________I ___X__I______I________X________I_____________I
D'Paul I_____I__X____I________I____X________I____X______I ___X__I__X___I_________________I_____________I
Butler I_____I__X____I___X____I____X________I____X______I ___X__I__X___I_________________I___X (FCS)____I
Creigh I_____I__X____I___X____I____X________I___________I ___X__I__X___I_________________I_____________I
Xavier I_____I__X____I___X____I____X________I____X______I ___X__I__X___I________X________I_____________I
Total I__5__I__10___I___7____I____9________I____7______I ___9__I__8___I________5________I_____3_______I

SLU I_D2_I___X____I__X___I______X_______I____________I ____I___X___I________X________I_____________I
UDay I____I___X____I__X___I______X_______I____________I __X__I__X___I_________________I____X (FCS)____I
URich I__X_I________I__X___I______X_______I_____X______I __X__I__X___I_________________I____X (FCS)____I
VCU I____I___X____I__X___I______X_______I_____X______I __X__I__X___I_________________I_______________I

[BMoreX]

I wouldn't be surprised if X adds lacrosse in a few years.

It's a growing sport, no new facilities are needed, and Title IX shouldn't interfere because you can add men's and women's.

[coasterville95]

Which, if I am reading the charts above correctly, means that we would participate in all sports (sans football) if we added LAX?

No others offered? (Field Hockey, Ice Hockey, etc?)

I don't see Volleyball or Softball on that chart, leading me to think its incomplete.

[Muskie]

I'll have to look and see if there is indeed another chart over at HLH.

[usfldan]

Which, if I am reading the charts above correctly, means that we would participate in all sports (sans football) if we added LAX?

No others offered? (Field Hockey, Ice Hockey, etc?)

I don't see Volleyball or Softball on that chart, leading me to think its incomplete.

This might be easier to read:

School	LaX	Soccer	Baseball	Cross Country	Track/Field	Golf	Tennis	Swimming/Diving	Football (type)
Marq	X	X		X	X	X	X
Gtown	X	X	X	X	X	X	X	X	X (FCS)
Nova	X	X	X	X	X	X	X	X	X (FCS)
John's	X	X	X			X	X
Prov	X	X		X	X			X
S Hall		X	X	X		X		X
D'Paul		X		X	X	X	X
Butler		X	X	X	X	X	X		X (FCS)
Creigh		X	X	X		X	X
Xavier		X	X	X	X	X	X	X
Total	5	10	7	9	7	9	8	5	3
SLU	D2	X	X	X			X	X
UDay		X	X	X		X	X		X (FCS)
URich	X		X	X	X	X	X		X (FCS)
VCU		X	X	X	X	X	X

[coasterville95]

Perhaps that chart only refers to men's sports offered?

[XU '11]

I'm hoping we don't add any sports until we have more money than we know what to do with. Keeping the total number of sports offered low is what allows us to fully invest in the the olympic sports we DO have. If you look at Georgetown and Villanova, they offer just about every sport possible, but they are all under-funded and thus not successful (in general). Let's be really good at what we do have. I know some of the olympic sports still aren't fully funded in terms of full coaching staffs. If we match the upper echelon of funding (relative to our Big East foes) in all of our current olympic sports and still have money to spare, then we can talk about adding sports.

[GoMuskies]

It's too bad the Big East will not sponsor basketball. Seems like that could have been a good league.

[LA Muskie]

I'm hoping we don't add any sports until we have more money than we know what to do with. Keeping the total number of sports offered low is what allows us to fully invest in the the olympic sports we DO have. If you look at Georgetown and Villanova, they offer just about every sport possible, but they are all under-funded and thus not successful (in general). Let's be really good at what we do have. I know some of the olympic sports still aren't fully funded in terms of full coaching staffs. If we match the upper echelon of funding (relative to our Big East foes) in all of our current olympic sports and still have money to spare, then we can talk about adding sports.

In a vacuum I would agree. But in the immortal words of George Costanza, "You know we're living in a society!!!" (See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxtxzF5L8VA and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usN3rpfFoGA.)

Bear in mind that schools in a conference want to compete in that conference. The Georgetowns and the Villanovas want their conference-mates to offer mostly the same sports so that every sport gets a true "conference" experience. They also want there to be a level playing field across athletic departments (or will at least argue that when it suits them). Frankly I would be very surprised if adding some sports wasn't a condition of our addition to the Big East.