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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by MHettel View Post
    Frease was already signed at XU when Patterson committed to UK.

    Good try, though, UD fan.
    Officially, yes by a little over a month.

    But in reality, Patterson was never going anywhere but UK. Tubby had stopped recruiting bigs well before the quiet period because he knew he had Patterson in the bag. Only after Tubby left did anyone really suspect PPat may go to Florida, and even then it was highly unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamtheFlyer View Post
    Officially, yes by a little over a month.

    But in reality, Patterson was never going anywhere but UK. Tubby had stopped recruiting bigs well before the quiet period because he knew he had Patterson in the bag. Only after Tubby left did anyone really suspect PPat may go to Florida, and even then it was highly unlikely.
    you aren't livin in reality if you believe what you just posted. patterson is an '07 recruit and kf is '08. Why in the world, with the one and dones, would Tubby NOT recruit another big? Tubby knew he wasn't going to get him just like miller stopped on CW when he realized he wasn't gonna have a chance. Quit makin' it sound like kf settled on X because uk stopped//

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    Also, Frease was going to be coming to X for a long time before he actually committed. He had a little bit of a liking of UK, but it was because of Tubby. As soon as Tubby left he committed to Xavier.

    Don't let facts get in the way of believing that Xavier can't actually have a top ranked recruit wanting to go to school there.

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    Don't let homerdom get in the way of the point. The point is, when a big time program chooses one highly ranked recruit over another(or a player that falls just short of their "combine" like test), the "lower" programs often benefit. Tubby, contrary to what you may think, had basically stopped recruiting all together because he knew Patterson was in the bag. That was Tubby's biggest fault at UK, easing up after feeling good about one top player. When did Tubby ever get two great classes in a row? He didn't. He thought he could win with one star and a bunch of role players.

    Kenny Frease, like Wright, barely fell through the top powers' cracks. That's lucky. Jumping on lucky breaks like that is what programs at the A10 level must do to prosper. Both players may have chose the same schools regardless, but the odds decrease when UK, MSU, Texas and the like turn on the charm. Sometimes they don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamtheFlyer View Post
    Don't let homerdom get in the way of the point. The point is, when a big time program chooses one highly ranked recruit over another(or a player that falls just short of their "combine" like test), the "lower" programs often benefit. Tubby, contrary to what you may think, had basically stopped recruiting all together because he knew Patterson was in the bag. That was Tubby's biggest fault at UK, easing up after feeling good about one top player. When did Tubby ever get two great classes in a row? He didn't. He thought he could win with one star and a bunch of role players.

    Kenny Frease, like Wright, barely fell through the top powers' cracks. That's lucky. Jumping on lucky breaks like that is what programs at the A10 level must do to prosper. Both players may have chose the same schools regardless, but the odds decrease when UK, MSU, Texas and the like turn on the charm. Sometimes they don't.

    Adam, you're living in Flyer la la land if you seriously believe what you are writing. Chris Wright and Kenny Frease's recruitments are completely different. Chris Wright is a hometown kid, had an uncle who played for UD, and was probably going to UD regarless of who was coaching. I'll still give Gregory credit though for the committment, although it was a pretty easy sell.

    Sean Miller recruited Kenny very hard and in the end, Kenny chose Xavier. It had nothing to do with Patterson, who wasn't "in the bag" at all for UK like you say. In fact, most UK fans credit Billy Gillespie with closing the deal on Patterson committing to UK.

    I'm sure Xavier's record of producing NBA big men had nothing to do with Kenny choosing Xavier, or making yearly appearances in the NCAA tournament, or playing a top notch schedule, etc.

    Kenny didn't fall through the cracks, as you say. Sean and his staff are recruiting the midwest, the east coast, and the south pretty hard. Sean Miller can recruit, no doubt about it.

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    Isn't this the Adreian Payne (OFFER) Thread or did I get lost somewhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MADXSTER View Post
    Isn't this the Adreian Payne (OFFER) Thread or did I get lost somewhere?

    You musta got lost, musta got lost, musta got lost somewhere down the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MADXSTER View Post
    Isn't this the Adreian Payne (OFFER) Thread or did I get lost somewhere?
    You shoulda took a left at Albuquerque!!!!

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    On the Buckeye premium board, a known reliable poster said that Payne has indeed committed to Dayton today. Really wanted him to come to Xavier.

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    I don't think he has verballed because it has not hit the dayton boards, and Scoop "rivals" Snow said it is not true.
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