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Most Butler fans don't. Jordan isn't as good as Holtmann and certainly not as good as Stevens, but he's not awful either. Had there been a tourney last year, he'd have made the NCAA tournament in 2...

X - 78
Butler - 50

I think most reasonable Butler fans expect a letdown after the Villanova win, and I'd expect X to at least win by double digits. Xavier hasn't played their best basketball in conference yet, but I...

Yeah I can only speak for myself on that, but not only is it not possible, it's also a bad look for the school and can only hurt in recruiting going forward. For that reason I was glad they went...

To be fair, that's basically the one post that puts any of the blame on Kyle in the thread and every fanbase has doofuses like that.

The Meyer hire was big for Butler and Jordan IMO. Meyer was...

So sad to hear this and my thoughts and prayers are with him for a full recovery. He was already having a tough season with the shoulder issues. Hopefully he gets well, that's the most important...

Absolutely. I'll be the first to admit the dude was a huge flopper too. Video wasn't meant to incite outrage, merely to show that stuff goes uncalled every single game.

It all depends on your perspective when you watch the game. In the 1st half, Xavier shot 11 3's and 15 2's. Butler shot 7 3's and 28 2's and held an 8-4 advantage in the fouls called department and...

Like the other individual who responded, I don't think it's a coaching issue as much as a personnel issue. Not that it means a ton since Holtmann is the one who said it during the press conference,...

This might be the funniest post I've read in awhile. You do realize your team shot 50% from 3, mostly because there were WIDE open driving lanes all day, and you guys were getting lay-ups when you...

Appreciate the classy gesture guys.

It's impressive any way you slice it, but all of Butler's players were between 5:05 and 5:45 for their timed mile this morning, with Kellen Dunham and Tyler Lewis leading the way at 5:05 and 5:08...

Congrats on the win guys. Outside of Barlow and maybe Woods, the Bulldogs played pretty terrible last night. Credit to Xavier's overwhelming size and talent for that. You can call us whatever...

Correct, he was suspended for their game against Marquette.

Agree to disagree. Jones has taken 3 more shots than Dunham in their 3 conference games. Of their 8 rotation players, Jones has the worst EFG%. Dunham has the best of those 8 guys. You are more...

I respect your difference in opinion. Out of the 8 guys that play consistently for Butler, outside of Dunham, I might trust 1 other guy (Barlow) to take an open shot outside of 5 feet, and even...

To be fair, he is the only offensive option that Butler has, so he pretty much has to force shots. I don't see Xavier letting him get going on Saturday. I do agree that there are times that he...

Here's a high level view of how he comes up with his preseason rankings. Lot of the same things you'd mentioned. http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/entry/pre_season_ratings_2014

99% of the time that's true... but then there's DePaul (Keep in mind these were 2 tweets in a 7 tweet rant on this).

Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein · Oct 10
The first thing DePaul needs to do if...

Or like how several of you "blew it" when trying to spell Bluiett's last name. :read:

These thoughts pretty much fall in line with Norlander's preview article. Mack's going to have a lot of toys...

No problem, feel free to come on over anytime. There's at least a couple of Xavier guys that come over and post, and hopefully they don't feel like they're treated too poorly.

I think this is a...

You're clearly looking at the wrong board: http://butlerhoops.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=5

As a Butler fan and someone who watched Trevon a fair bit in AAU and HS, this isn't true. Hayward, IMO, was a much better athlete and guarded anyone from the 3-5 at 6'8 while he was at Butler. ...

Little late to the party on this, but a lot of you are correct in your thinking. Dunham is a good player, but his best fit would be as the 3rd scoring option on a team, not the only scoring option...

Trevon Bluiett, even with someone like Isaiah Whitehead and Isaac Copeland has a chance to be the rookie of the year in this league next year. I'm not telling you anything you guys don't already...