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Is he staying? If he leaves I think that tells us everything we need to know. 1.) about him. 2.) ability of our program to compete in this era. 3.) where our expectations really should be.
I’m not confident in our leadership at the top. So I wouldn’t be surprised. Gc is crap who has been there way too long and failed up. Never made a good hire his entire career outside of Sean falling into his lap. We shall see what happens.
I would say Sean can be “selective” at this point in his coaching career. I think he would have possibly jumped to Indiana if that position did not get filled already. However, Indiana fans already tried the “Miller” route with Archie and that did not work out. I think if a true Blue Blood opening comes available, then he will take it. I would not blame him. He already tried Arizona and had decent results. Just my two cents.
Obvious rumors about Texas. I think it’s a spot he would like. He was very much interested after beard left. I don’t think it’s quite the same now, but there is chatter. Is it to get more resources from X or is he actually interested again?
Coaches really want the SEC. I think it’s a complete toss up, but with the portal opening Monday I expect to know by the end of Sunday what Texas is doing
I’d prefer that he stays for continuity reasons. But if he goes, freaking do it NOW, and then let’s get someone in here in a matter of days.
You just cannot go an extended period of time without a coach in this day and age with a roster in limbo and the portal as such an easy option
I would be surprised if Sean goes to Texas but if he goes, he got us a Sweet Sixteen and an amazing victory over Texas and got the program back on track after Steele.
You mentioned on another thread that “ your Guy” said Sean was leaving. If he knew that I assume he knew why?
Agreed. Let’s move quick one way or the other. In the portal era, the change isn’t really as bad. I’d never be as comfortable about a potential change. But we can’t let it last long. If Miller is coach at Texas by Monday- Xavier needs a coach within a week
I really really really hope that Sean stays.
I agree 100%. My interest has been waning for a few years with the portal and NIL. If he left (again) it might just be the last straw.Quote:
Originally Posted by XUGRAD80
I'm not convinced how "back on track" the program is. Better, certainly, but compared to what? Tin Man years, yes. Pre-tin. No.
Barely squeaking into the tournament with the veteran line-up (seemingly playing their best ball at the right time) then laying a complete turn in round one against a 6 seed...
Maybe Illinois will go on and make a lot of teams look as bad as they made X look.
2026 is going to be a very important year for this program and going into the off-season is going to tell us a lot about the "track".
Injuries have killed Miller in the 2nd time around.
Year 1) Freemantle goes out. Fresh off looking like the best BE team and beating eventual NC two times. They were final four good.
Year 2) starting front court went down- it was scramble mode from Europeans to try and get anything worth while in the post.
Year 3) the biggest thing X was missing was a center who could play defense and rebound. He got hurt for the year before it started.
If he’s back, I’d love for a year to see how his plan could work out. X isn’t in bad shape in NIL. But not in good enough shape to overcome starting injuries and look great.
Don’t understand how Texas is desirable. Yes they have money, but zero basketball tradition and will always be second fiddle to football. Miller should be selective. There will be way better jobs than Texas that opens up at some point
Maybe he is sick of cold and snowy winters and living in Arizona spoiled him?
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xavier
And Ville. Why now?
The fact of the matter is X doesn’t have the $$$ to win. So, I hope Sean stays and builds something at X however the game has become a money maker for a lot on interests.
It sucks and it will not get better. For example, one of my former team mate’s (baseball) kid signed a NIL deal at 12 years old worth more (inflation adjusted) than what we were paid to play at the lowest level possible in the minors.
The sooner we all realize that it’s a business the better we’ll feel about it.
Let’s go X!
I guess I don’t understand this… who is paying a 12-year-old? Is he repoing a business? If so, who sees a 12-year-old promote a business and say “Hey, I think I’ll spend $$$ at that business because of this 12-year-old!!!”Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
When NIL first started I thought it was so players could be hired to endorse local car dealerships and restaurants etc. Now schools just get a lot of $$$ from donors to pay players? School with the most funds to pay players gets their pick of the litter?
Is there any chance NIL will get reigned in with a salary cap or a limit like 1 transfer per player in their career?
With Free and Hunter leaving and us probably never seeing a guy play more than 2 years at X again it definitely makes it harder to be invested and interested.
If Sean goes then I think it might give us an indication of Xavier trying to compete in this era.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xville
College Basketball/Football has gone through monumental change with NIL, transfer portal, soon to be revenue sharing and conference realignments. ( More realignment coming when the ACC implodes down the line). The change of Nil/transfer portal on X basketball has been significant. None of us really know how competitive X can or can't be in this new environment. We just know that the old blueprint X used to success is gone. Sean has been very good at getting guards out of the portal, and am optimistic X can still make the tournament consistently ( I might be wrong on that). I also think the Tournament is going to expand at some point soon. ( I don't want it to, but I think it is inevitable.)
It looks like a high number of players hitting the portal have agents. Having competitive NIL is probably the most important thing right now and I am sure Miller wants that. I think Sean desperately wants a final four. If Sean believes he can get to Final Fours at Xavier, then I think he stays. If he does not believe he has the resources, then I think he goes.
Separately, Sean is represented by super-agent Jimmy Sexton who has a ton of College Football heavy weight coaches. Sexton represented Nick Saban and represents current Texas Football coach Steve Sarkisian. Sexton has relationship with a lot of the Top AD's.
https://www.tuscaloosanews.com/story...l/72205499007/
Reading online that the Texas AD only parts ways with coaches once he has the next coach lined up. If Sean is leaving it has likely been in motion for a little bit. We shall see how it plays out.
You can stop after “Money.”Quote:
Originally Posted by Xville
College basketball is a professional sport now and your ability to compete is directly linked to your ability to pay top talent to come play for your team every single year.
I think people don’t appreciate how this is going to be a yearly process unless and until either Congress steps in or some kind of CBA occurs. Every single year your best player will ask for more money and leave if you can’t meet salary demands. Every single year your top recruits will leave for more playing time so they can put tape out and make more money.
The SEC & the B10 are going to own this generation of college ball because the financial resources for these schools absolutely dwarf even their ACC counterparts — just like in football.
I get that you don’t understand. However it’s real and there is no salary cap. How it’s done is a corporate sponsor (UA, Nike, etc) pays for the gear, tourney fees, etc which happened back in the day as well however the kid (parents) now signs on to the deal for a set amount of time. It’s gross.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cincypunk.org
A lot of it started with AAU hoops.
That’s a bold prediction. Same one that some of us were making 5 years ago. This was sooooo destined.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caveat
Sean never seemed comfortable under the pressure of immense expectations. Does he want to be super rich and happy or super duper rich and miserable? Only he can answer that question.
It’s going to take either a federal law or the players unionizing and some kind of college-wide collective bargaining agreement. Attempting to reign in player transfers or salary would otherwise be an illegal restraint on commerce / the market.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cincypunk.org
This is going to be the new normal for a while.
And I get it’s frustrating because the media just pretends in these games / coverage that it isn’t happening. You hear talk about how dominant the SEC was and no one chimes in to discuss how much more they’re spending on players than the competition. The media understands that the popularity of the sport would decline if fans became more aware of the disparity in spending + how much these players are making. They want you to still identify with these players as “kids representing their school” when it hasn’t been like this for years. It’s the G-League with no spending rules now. And they know what the ratings are for the G-League.
My point is that everyone has money in the power 4, and he could go to a basketball rich tradition who also has money. Not like the sec is the only conference with money. Have you watched the rest of the tourney? They aren’t any better than any other conference, just propped up by espn. Texas has zero bb tradition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caveat
Sean can be selective where he goes if he wants to go somewhere m. Texas would be at the bottom of the list.
I really don’t see miller going somewhere where bb is second fiddle. It goes against everything he’s ever said and done
And there you have it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Blooded-05
I’d love Sean to stay because “I think” he loves the game (basketball, not the other part of it) and seems to actually what to help the young pros get better.
Or maybe I’m just naive and grew up with excellent coaches who did it for peanuts. :)
Weird situation because while Texas did fire a coach who went to the sweet 16 and made the tournament all 3 years (granted, steady obvious decline) Texas bball takes a huge back seat to football. I don’t know that the pressure is all that high. Sean can build good enough teams there. He isn’t the fanbase first choice, though.
Feel like he did the big school big expectations thing and saw grass isn’t always greener. However, I learned long ago to never say never about XU coaches leaving.
If this is his agent getting this out there to keep pressure on XU for resources and NIL fundraising, I love it. If he actually leaves though, that would be devastating. Ugh.
My thoughts exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by D-West & PO-Z
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Yay for agents! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bjf123
Anybody monitoring flights from Cincinnati to Austin?
How about looking at this from the vantage point of hierarchy and gap.
What has been the hierarchy in college basketball for the last - pick any length of time: decade, 30 years, 50 years?
Has Xavier closed the competitive gap since Bill Daley convinced the University’s leadership to get serious about basketball and athletics?
The hierarchy really hasn’t changed much, has it? A small number of true Blue Bloods. Then the larger, more powerful land grant universities. Then the next level of large public schools and better private schools, followed by a sea of Mid and Low Majors.
The competitive gap? We have built a respectable résumé over 40 years, which itself has built a strong fan base. We have a beautiful facility and made it to the Big East.
The portal is something to which you adjust. It’s the new, primary source for attracting the personnel you need. Everyone is stuck with it.
NIL. It’s the damn NIL. It presents a kind of “structural” dilemma for us, insofar as it will keep us from being able to close the “gap“ any further than we have to this point in time. Everyone here understands it and gets it.
However, it doesn’t mean that we cannot still compete at a level where we can make it to the second weekend and possibly still get lucky and make it to the third weekend at some point.
I’m 69 years old - almost. I have lived through Schmidt Memorial Fieldhouse and Tay Baker. I am in the demographic that is frustrated by all of this monumental change to college athletics. Yet, I frankly believe that we will remain on the national stage in the sport. Never say never, but I understand that we will likely not ascend to the level of a Duke. That doesn’t mean we are going away.
As far as Sean Miller is concerned, I do not see him leaving Xavier. But it gets back to what may be the key question, doesn’t it? Does Sean believe he can make it to a F4 from Victory Parkway?
It’s up to our eventual package of compensation resources for our players - NIL, direct payments. We have everything else in place that we need.
This moment has become crazier than sitting around to see whether or not we made this year‘s tournament. Now we get to see whether or not Sean stays, that he keeps the key players we want and need, and that he can move on and build a roster from there.
Tic. Tic. Tic.
This has played out very strangely as Texas has not officially announced that Terry has been fired. I read an article that the current Texas AD Delconte will not announce the firing until they have the next coach lined up.
Kirk Bohls covers University of Texas for the Houston Chronicle. Here is his tweet from two hours ago. " Delconte hasn't met with Rodney Terry yet, but I expect that to happen by Monday. I think Texas will hire Xavier's Sean Miller because he is a successful, polished veteran coach, has a small relatively small buyout and is a CDC favorite (Texas AD)". I tried linking the quote from Twitter, but was unable.
Take the information with a grain of salt because it looks like although Bohls covers Texas he has been wrong at times in the past on Texas info.
My opinion, if Sean is the guy for Texas, it will be announced by Monday. It seems odd that so many Texas people think it is Miller. It is either very legit or a complete misdirection from the Texas AD and these people don't know anything. I am actually leaning towards these people don't know anything. (Sean could still end up being the guy though). Also, Texas conducting a coaching search while the current guy is "employed" is something.
That’s apparently how it works with the AD. They fired the football coach in the morning and 3 hours later had Sark. So once Terry is officially let go, expect Texas to make an announcement shortly after.
I think Miller is a good coach but not a great coach. He is a guard coach but not a big man coach. Freemantle is very good so they had to go to him this year, but last year Miller did nothing to get the big men involved. I understand they were not the greatest, but you still need to get them involved and hopefully develop them. If most guards made a mistake they probably are taken out for a short while. As soon as a big man made a mistake he was out for a long time. The only place they got the ball was at the top of the key beyond the three point line. If I was a big man, I would never play for Miller unless he gave me a boat load of money. If Miller leaves and they get Mack back, it would be a big upgrade.
I think this is more the assistants issue than miller imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSpivery
This is bullshit. He supported Free shooting 3's. He's going to have to be able to do it at the next level.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSpivery
Any perceived lack of production from the post comes from a lack of ability. Not some systematic issue Sean has.
If the Texas rumor is true, do we bring Chris Mack back for a few years before he jumps ship for greener (pun intended) pastures?
I think Miller is the better coach, but The program was at its highest with Mack. He has a cockiness and edge the team models after, too. Which I think is important. If it were me, he’d be the first call. And I’d expect him to take the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Blooded-05
I also don’t really trust Greg to find a better option so I’d put my eggs in the basket we know.
Yes. I mentioned he supported Free. I do not think Miller made him better though. Free already was good.Quote:
Originally Posted by waggy
If you were a big guy watching the 23-24 team, what was there that would make you want to play for Miller?
If Miller leaves again after all he’s said, he can F off. Forever. Eliminate his existence at X.
Also, if it happens, the AD needs to go. It would signal zero confidence even though I’d still blame Miller. Basically, if it happens, he would have used the University to get back on track to go somewhere else. He can certainly do that, but the Miller name should be wiped from history at X.
Those saying “he got us back on track” - huh? We’re still floating as a mid tier Big East program. Finish the job. After 3 years after all you said? Hollow and manipulative.
Obviously, I only have these thoughts if he left. Anybody can speculate these days.
It can't be judged because the #1 post guy got injured.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSpivery
Stretch bigs are much different than traditional bigs. Guys that can shoot are easier to integrate, and it can be done earlier because of their greater skill set. Guys that don't have that skill are by and large rebounders and rim protectors. There are exceptions, but their aren't alot of them.
Free was playing the best ball of his career down the stretch this year.