You got to start this thread at some point, so why not start out with a rising Ohio prospect.
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You got to start this thread at some point, so why not start out with a rising Ohio prospect.
https://247sports.com/college/basket...022-148802150/
Plays in Columbus suburb, might as well forget him.
Ohio State vs Xavier for an Ohio kid. Think we have seen this before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xuperman
If you're implying he's gonna be a Buckeye, they have to offer him first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xuperman
If he was to announce today, it looks like he would be a VCU Ram. However, X has offered AND apparently have established a positive relationship with him.....Odom would be a JR at PG when he is a Frosh.
X offered another St Francis kid for 2022...Keith Robbins.
https://twitter.com/keith_robbins24
According to the Verbal Commits site, Xavier has 38 offers out there right now for 2022 kids (and a few for 2023 already too!).
https://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/xavier
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/spo...ay/4287398001/
Nice to see that X is continuing to go full bore to land Paul McMillan IV, as Coach Steele called him personally after Woodward won their league championship. Also mentions he has a 4.0 GPA, so that means his education is a top priority. The opportunity to get a quality degree should give X an advantage over the other suitors, certainty over UC!
Paul is just scorching the nets, averaging around 30 ppg. He would be a big time get!
Well this hasn't aged well, a CB in for the good guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by xuphan
Did he commit? Not exactly excited about a kid ranked around 180 that is in Ohio State's yard and was never offered by them. Mcmillan is by far the better prospect, gotta think Jones is a fall back option for XQuote:
Originally Posted by throwbackmuskie
I think Jones is good but the reason he is not rated higher is his size. Drew Lavender did well for that size. Jones is a fast point guard that can shoot and score. Would love McMillan but think he goes to Louisville or KY if they offer. Probably one reason Ohio State never offered Jones is they already have a 4 star PG committed for 22 and two other guards also committed. Had they missed on the PG they would have offered Jones in all likelihood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xville
I get what you are saying...if Jones was 6’e he’d be rated higher but he’s not so it’s kind of a non starter. Jones is not rated that because of his size, lavender was about 5’7 and a mcd all American. He’s rated that because that is his skill level.Quote:
Originally Posted by xavierj
Odom might be 6’0 and was a top 60 recruit.
I disagree about the rankings part. Drew Lavender was a 5 start McDonalds All American so I think there are other concerns to Jones game other than size. I think Paul’s recruiting will be very similar to Branham. Xavier will be in the mix but Paul is looking for a “bigger” program to offer him before he commits. I think Paul will be Louisville bound before it is all said and done.Quote:
Originally Posted by xavierj
Louisville has offered....they have a 4 star pg coming in next year....wonder if that is why he hasn't committed there, or if he is waiting for a Kentucky (seems to be a little lower ranked than what they typically go for at this point).Quote:
Originally Posted by xuphan
It does look like of the ones xavier has offered, jones is most likely going to be the pg that X gets. 22 I think is a pretty crucial recruiting class for Steele and the X program, so I hope they can make some moves.
Pretty much agree with what you are saying. Osu has 3 guards committed for 22 already, yes only one PG, but 3 guards none the less.Quote:
Originally Posted by xavierj
I don’t know. His skill level looks pretty good to me. Maybe it’s due to not playing AAU in the spring, not sure. As for rankings, St. John’s freshman PG was ranked like 280 and he seems to be doing just fine. I will take a quick PG who can break his guy down and also bury a three any day. I would love to land McMillian, but if not this guy seems like he would be a take.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xville
Fair points, and heck Gillespie was in I think the 200s as well and he is more than capable. 2022 is pretty crucial for x to restock the pipeline so hope they can hit on a fewQuote:
Originally Posted by xavierj
I know stars aren't the be-all-to-end-all (which is basically what you say when you can't get any) but it is interesting that Xavier has offered a few fives, several fours and almost all the rest twos. What happened to all the 3* prospects?Quote:
Originally Posted by XUGRAD80
I don’t think verbal commits is the best sources for player rankings. I do like that they have DII schools so I can follow my Findlay Oilers.Quote:
Originally Posted by UCGRAD4X
VC almost never gives anyone as many stars as others do. I really pay little or no attention to stars and rankings normally, and especially this year as there has been almost no in person viewing of players. There are going to be a lot of swings and misses on players, and I would also expect a lot of transfers in a year or so. Coaches are giving scholarship offers without ever seeing a player actually play in person and players are choosing schools that they have never even visited. Let’s hope that the summer tournaments can happen this year and that players can once again make school visits.Quote:
Originally Posted by xuphan
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Originally Posted by xuphan
It's not a comment necessarily about the accuracy or inaccuracy about the point/star system. Those that get them - crow about it, those that don't, say, "Don't put too much stock in them." I don't follow recruiting closely enough to know diddly-squat either way. I watched way too many highly rated recruits say X is in their "final 2 or 3" and go elsewhere anyway, and trying to get into the mind of any post-pubescent prima donna is a lesson in futility that leads to early onset of a wide variety on maladies from the heartbreak of psoriasis to to seeing yellow toothed gnomes in your jellybean patch.Quote:
Originally Posted by XUGRAD80
I just thought it was odd/interesting/curious that out of all of those offers the distribution would almost entirely skip the 3s. One might expect that to be the majority.
Like I said, what do I know...I just work here.
Are you making that up? If not, point to where either Paul, or someone close to him, has been quoted saying he wants a bigger program?Quote:
Originally Posted by xuphan
The reality is, his father played for a small Jesuit school and I'm banking on his family wanting the same experience for him. Also, his 4.0 GPA should come up big in his decision making process and Xavier is a nice fit in that regard.
Besides, has Mack really done much to clean up the image down at U of L?
Can any of our recruits stick their nose in the paint and get a tough rebound?
Asking for a friend.
Did you read what I posted? I said I think Paul’s recruitment will end up like Branhams. He could very well end up at Xavier but I am not confident that he will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xuperman
I just stumbled upon info on an AAU tournament played in Wilder, KY this past weekend. Paul McMillan IV is playing for Manimal Elite again and continues to dominate any competition in front of him.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QR5Fm5B1pS0&pp=QACIAgA%3D
Penn State just offered him but the real contenders in his recruiting process remains UofL, Xavier, UD. I think it's safe to say UC is out of the running due to the ongoing dumpster fire. I guess most think UofL is the heavy favorite (see above) but Dino Gaudio was his head recruiter and Mack fired him....optics for the McMillans can't be good. Many believe UK will get him if offered, but they haven't. Not to mention, they already have 4 top 25 guys for 2022 and they are all guards.
No doubt several heavy hitters will end up in the mix but we were in on him early and I think we're in a really good position to nab him. Obviously no PGs in our 2021 class, Odom will be a JR, so it looks like there would be ample opportunity for some significant minutes right away at the point. Paul is going to be a big time player....here's to hoping Travis and Dante keep things hot!!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MMygscJWG78
Word is that McMillan and Leland Walker played 2 games vs each other at the tournemant and both were epic PG battles. Walker holds an offer from X as well. Out of North Central in Indianapolis.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IOMNj6...ature=youtu.be
He scored 34 in another game. Kid looks like a real baller!!
Glad to see he has gained a couple of inches and hit the weight room a little bit too. If x can grab one of these two, the pg spot should be in good hands for the foreseeable future with Odom and one these two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xuperman
It could complicate things somewhat as Sean Jones is still a hot recruit for X at PG. According to 247, he has a 100% crystal ball to be a Musketeer. However, new offers have poured in on him recently from several P5 programs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xville
https://247sports.com/Player/Sean-Jones-46102796/
I would rather have Jones. Kid is really good. Not sold on Paul. I also think Travis would rather have Jones as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xuperman
Sean Jones has some Tu in him it looks like. Maybe more athletic.
https://mobile.twitter.com/JakeSpega...09865739735042
https://mobile.twitter.com/Logan_Jua...87221646991366
Not tall, but if he can channel a Drew Lavenderesque game, I'll take it
Yep not tall but here are some of the best players to ever play point guard at Xavier and all 6’’0” and under.Quote:
Originally Posted by muskiefan82
Stan Kimbrough, Jamal Walker, Jaime Gladden, Michael Hawkins, Lionel Chalmers, Drew Lavender, and Tu Holloway. Most of Xavier’s best teams had small point guards that were quick and tough.
I've seen them all and I will take it in a second if he's got tose types of skillsQuote:
Originally Posted by xavierj
Gonna pump the brakes on this one. He has one crystal ball prediction and the prediction level on that crystal ball is medium. So the 100% thing while true isn’t a great representation of where he will end up given only one analyst has him currently going to Xavier. He would be a great get along with Paul for the class of 22.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xuperman
I think he and his mom are visiting in June. He has visited himself before. I think Xavier is leading in a big way right now if I had to guess. Also will not be taking him and Paul.Quote:
Originally Posted by xuphan
I expect there to be some real movement after visits in June are allowed.
Thinking out loud, I wonder how much COVID is going to mess up recruiting rankings in the next year or so, for football kids couldn't camp, so they didn't get the exposure that they normally would (could lead to lower rankings, and finding a three star that's really a four star recruit), I wonder if the same can be applied to the AAU circuit and basketball. I don't follow recruiting closely so I'm not sure, if anybody else may have an idea, I'd love to hear.
Forget the rankings, it’s going to effect RECRUITING itself for at least the next year. In addition, I believe that it’s going to have a major effect on TRANSFERS for the next year or two. Coaches and players are looking for the best fit for their programs and schools. Coaches are going to find that tape, zoom calls, and opinions from HS coaches are a poor substitute for in-person observation and interaction. Players are going to find that those same things is true for them, and that college pamphlets, video visits, and drone footage of a college campus don’t tell the complete story. There are going to be lots of kids that could have played D1 ball and don’t, simply because they weren’t seen. They are going to light it up at a lower level school and then move on. There are going to be lots of kids that start out at big time schools, and just can’t cut it basketball wise, scholastically wise, or socially wise, that end up transferring after a year or two. Today’s HS sophomores and juniors are going to have a chance to correct these things over the next year or so. Today’s HS seniors are another story. I feel sorry for them.
How can you leave off Steve Gentry and Sherwin Anderson? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by xavierj
Are we just listing everyone that was short?Quote:
Originally Posted by 94GRAD
Sherwin Anderson scored 265 points in his 4 year career. I'm not looking to find another Sherwin Anderson.
Also, I'm thinking Gladden was more of a SG.
Gladden was an SG.Quote:
Originally Posted by MHettel