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11-18-2020, 12:21 PM
xubrew

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Let’s allow Trump the same amount of time given to Gore and immediately impeach Biden for his dealings with China. Seems fair.

Yeah, you said that already, and again the answer is that Trump is gutting DHS and other parts of The Pentagon, which should concern everyone given the world that we now live in. Nothing like this happened the last time, yet we still had 9/11. We are potentially even more prone to something like that happening again than we were before.
11-18-2020, 12:58 PM
STL_XUfan

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Originally Posted by xubrew

Here's the thing, though. NONE of that is being brought forward to the courts. Is there any reason why Trump's own lawyers would not bring any of that forward or push for the courts to order it to be looked into other than that they know that it's totally fabricated??

You can't say "We have all this evidence!!" and then when asked to present it or given the opportunity to present it, NOT present it!

If you don't think Trump is totally full of shit, and ACTUALLY believe that this election was stolen and that Trump's lawyers have the evidence to prove it, then why aren't you yelling at them for not doing so and instead only bringing forward hilariously flimsy "evidence" that is getting tossed out of court?

Lying about evidence on Tucker Carlson: No penalty
Lying about evidence to a Federal Judge: Significant penalty.
11-18-2020, 01:05 PM
xubrew

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Originally Posted by STL_XUfan

Lying about evidence on Tucker Carlson: No penalty
Lying about evidence to a Federal Judge: Significant penalty.

BINGO!!

There is not another reason that I can think of as to why this hasn't been brought before the courts other than that it is all a lie and his lawyers know that. It's not like the sociopathic mental patient doesn't have a long history of lying.
11-18-2020, 01:13 PM
Masterofreality

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Let’s allow Trump the same amount of time given to Gore and immediately impeach Biden for his dealings with China. Seems fair.

Hillary Clinton never conceded the 2016 election.
By the way, Stacy Abrams never conceded the 2018 gubernatorial election. You never hear or heard the media screaming about that. Just urging them on.
11-18-2020, 01:17 PM
xubrew

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

Hillary Clinton never conceded the 2016 election.
By the way, Stacy Abrams never conceded the 2018 gubernatorial election. You never hear or heard the media screaming about that. Just urging them on.

MOR, did you accidentally microwave your head!!??

Hillary called him in the middle of the night to concede, gave a concession speech the next day, and O'Bama also called him that night to congratulate him and invite him to the White House to begin the transition process.

This is as far off the reservation as saying Xavier never went to the Elite Eight. Never happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv4hsmfgRuI
11-18-2020, 01:20 PM
94GRAD

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

Hillary Clinton never conceded the 2016 election.
By the way, Stacy Abrams never conceded the 2018 gubernatorial election. You never hear or heard the media screaming about that. Just urging them on.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...d-trump-speech

https://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/50142...o-donald-trump

https://fortune.com/2016/11/09/us-pr...llary-clinton/

A quick google search says otherwise
11-18-2020, 01:22 PM
GoMuskies

I suspect MOR's point will be that Clinton to this day claims she was cheated out of the election due to Russian interference.
11-18-2020, 01:24 PM
xubrew

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

I suspect MOR's point will be that Clinton to this day claims she was cheated out of the election due to Russian interference.

Okay, well if you put it like that then I'm less inclined to think that he needs to immediately move out of his house and have it checked for lead.
11-18-2020, 02:19 PM
Strange Brew

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Originally Posted by boozehound

There seem to be two options right now:

1. Support and defend everything that Trump does or says
2. You're a Democrat!

There might even be a flow chart.

Drawing parallels to Bush-Gore is ridiculous for a number of reasons, including (not not limited to) the following:

1. First and foremost - that was a simple re-count centered around 1 state that was MUCH closer than any of the states being contested in this election. There is no single state that is being contested that would change the result.

2. If Trump was simply quietly pursuing a re-count while allowing for a transition in the (likely) event that he loses, it would be a different story. That's obviously not what happened.

That comparison is a logical fallacy.

Different. There was going to be a transition anyway after Clinton and Clinton failed to kill OBL when he had the chance.
11-18-2020, 02:34 PM
Smails

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Originally Posted by boozehound

There seem to be two options right now:

1. Support and defend everything that Trump does or says
2. You're a Democrat!

There might even be a flow chart.

Nope...that dog don't hunt. I've been critical of his behavior throughout his presidency. If he would have just put the twitter down and perhaps not attacked John McCain posthumously, he probably wins Arizona and the WH. The man can't get out of his own way and that's a shame because I was a fan of 90% of his public policy decisions. I am of the position that he lost fair and square and he needs to start making an exit strategy. My position echoes just about every conservative I know and communicate with. I think you're making the mistake of just hearing the loudest voices.

Also- there was nothing 'simple' about the recount in Florida. It was a rock fight and the Republicans threw bigger, dirtier rocks.