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Does anyone really expect a Secy of State somewhere to walk up to the microphone and say “Well, you caught us. We had a major illegal vote generating operation going on.”? If there is any voter fraud going on, it’s 100% local and hidden from everyone, including the Secy of State.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
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I read the brief and affidavit. If it was true, it would be a cause for concern.
But it seemed to overlook 2 important things:
1 - If ballots were run through a machine a number of times, votes for either candidate could be inflated
2 - There were poll watchers from both parties in all the rooms. You would think someone would have noted a worker running them through more than once; not just an IT person.
I do agree with that. State officials will uphold the integrity of their voting process until clear evidence to the contrary has been presented. As they should, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by bjf123
I do think people are giving the Democrats a lot of credit on their ability to significantly manipulate elections results across multiple states in some sort of grass roots effort, while somehow managing to (thus far) not get caught. We are talking about A LOT of votes in many of these states. Almost 150K in Michigan and 50K in PA. I can't imagine that they were able to manipulate votes on that scale without one of two things happening:
1. Somebody taking a cell phone video / audio recording (or other clear evidence) of fraud - Let's remember here, the Repulicans have been issuing (non-specific) warnings of fraud since well before the election and asking people to be on the lookout. Even with all of that, nobody has a video or audio recording.
2. Some sort of memo surfacing detailing their instructions for widespread voter fraud. How did they disseminate this call to action widely enough to impact the election (but only in key states) but without it getting to a single 'wrong' person who would out them?
In my mind, this falls in the same bucket as the people who think Bush perpetrated 911 to give him a reason to invade Iraq. The amount of things that you would have to believe, without clear evidence, for this to be true is pretty staggering. You also have to believe that a group of people that you think to be generally extremely inept somehow came together to pull something like this off and didn't leave any evidence.
I read the affidavit. It sounds more like a poorly run shit show than intentional fraud. I don't know how affidavit's are transcribed, but the grammar is absolutely atrocious.Quote:
Originally Posted by xudash
It’s one baseless claims after another after another after another. All claims turn out to be totally unproven, and a lot of them turn out to be totally DISproven.
Step back for a second and just ask yourselves who it is that you’re starting to sound like.
It may be understandable that people who have been caught up in the cult-like beliefs that the president has pushed, resist the results of the election.
But many of the actions of government people seem to be almost childish.
Not releasing transition funds, no access to intelligence briefings, blocking access to State Department communication assistance, etc.
I'm waiting for some Republicans who recognize the need for a functioning government to come forward to assist.
It's starting to happen, but it needs to speed up.
Agreed, Paul. This is the definition of party over country.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulxu
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Originally Posted by xubrew
Pelosi, Schiff, Schumer, Waters yammering on about Russia?
yes!Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdiggins
If there is one video to watch on the election results, this is it. Every American regardless of who they voted for (or if you voted at all), should watch this if you truly care about the ability of the peoples' will in elections:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztu5Y5obWPk