That doesn't look good.
I wonder how they got it down to around 100/day in the summer. And they have 30% more people than we do.
We've never been below 500/day running average since March and now are near 1000.
This could be a really tough winter.
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That doesn't look good.
I wonder how they got it down to around 100/day in the summer. And they have 30% more people than we do.
We've never been below 500/day running average since March and now are near 1000.
This could be a really tough winter.
Our 7 day average through yesterday is 890. The EU has about 100 million more people than the US.
Hopefully we stay more or less level on this through the coming months. If that happens, it might be that we're better off doing that than having steep shocks like Europe. But who the hell knows with this thing.
I think college basketball this season is a pipedream.
We're over 100k new cases again today.
For some reason my kids' school is moving from full virtual to a hybrid model on Monday. They didn't want to start school in person when NJ was reporting 300-400 cases per day, but now that we are at 2K it makes perfect sense to get them back in school.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoMuskies
Our school district has found that even when community spread rises, there's zero or virtually zero spread at school. So as community spread increases, the kids (and faculty/staff) are likely safer when school is in session (assuming good masking/distancing/hygiene protocols).
My kids have been in school since august, yes there have been a few covid cases...you quarantine the sick, and the ones who had direct contact, and move on.
My BIL is sending his college age daughter to France for a semester (French major of some sort). I’m shocked. He’s a doctor, and his wife is a doctor. Sadly, the wife has stage 4 cancer, so part of it is they are afraid to have people around, coming and going after being exposed to who knows what. What might be fine for the daughter might kill the wife.
I don’t like to judge unless it’s egregiously bad behavior. I don’t know what to make of this, but just praying for the best for everyone.
115k cases. We did it! We beat our record.
As for sending the kid to France, I'm not sure what difference it makes. We have Covid here, and they have Covid there. If you're going to go through a pandemic, I guess you may as well go through it in France.
One thing to consider in trying to figure out spikes in cases and incidence is the mutations this virus has had. It’s been some time since mutation analysis has been released but the virus has mutated several times that results in increased transmissibility. Perhaps the virus is more transmissible but less deadly? And certainly our treatments are better. Early on we reserved remdesivir for the sickest of the sick. If their O2 sats dropped we freaked out and treated it like typical ARDS. Currently, we can use remdesivir in pretty much anyone hospitalized, and the threshold for using a vent is greater. This should continue to decrease mortality.
In Ohio the trend is still poor though, and it is getting dicey in some regions that don’t have the greatest access to healthcare. Mortality rate still varies too widely by geographic region.
Also....If choosing between the US and France, I would have a tough time choosing France.
France is certainly a mess, but for a college aged kid (assuming she is generally healthy)....meh.
This Covid is hammering the job market. Still 11 million out of work. I hope it continues to trend up.
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They basically agreed that she was safer in France than the mom was at home on Chemo with too many active people coming and going. Life is full of decisions, and you just do the best you can!Quote:
Originally Posted by GoMuskies
Hopefully by the time she gets back from the semester, a vaccine is widely available.Quote:
Originally Posted by xu82
If you're going to judge, it should be for them not convincing her that a French degree is useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by xu82
They have seen much of the world going to Irish dancing competitions. (This Irish guy didn’t even know there was such a thing!) They are both doctors, common sense is not a strong point. A French degree of some sort is right up their alley. Her older sister is in law school at Vanderbilt, but she’s basically the voice of reason for the entire family.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigdiggins
I honestly didn't know traveling abroad was available.
We have had a trip planned for almost a year. A few days in Italy, then a Windstar cruise (only about 300 passengers) basically from Rome (or the nearby port I can’t spell) to Barcelona. It is NEXT October, and I’m still not sure if it happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by MADXSTER
We are actually surprised the college is allowing this trip.
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Fixed that for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulxu
CDC Data Suggest Lockdowns Could Kill As Many People As COVID
Where have I heard this before?
So................how many hours was it past the election results were announced was it that we heard we had a vaccine that appears to be 90% effective?
Oh, apparently there is some kind of treatment too?
Curious shit there.
Shocked..shocked I tell ya! Good thing is that Joe is going to put together a task force and save the world along with mask mandates. Meanwhile, there is a vaccine. Joe posturing already and not even inaugurated yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by xu82
My kids' school just announced that they were closing and moving to all virtual due to significant community spread among school age children. I thought this was supposed to go away when Biden got elected!!!
Just be patient, it will go away as soon as he is inaugurated. Gotta be sure to have time between now and then to blame Trump on his way out. Luckily, Joe will ride in on his white horse in January when shockingly the vaccine will be ready to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozehound
These vaccines trials have been ongoing for months and it has been known for months that the first ones would start coming out by the end of the year. It's still not going to be until the spring or summer (or later) until there is a large enough supply for the general public.Quote:
Originally Posted by xu82
But yes of course everything is a plot against the republicans by the liberal media, I mean the liberal pharmaceutical companies.
You're a moron to continue to spout this. First covid was fake. Then covid would go away right after the election. Now it won't go away until after Biden is inaugurated. What will be your excuse when we're still dealing with this months into his presidency?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xville
If I'm Pfizer, I don't want Trump taking credit for my hard work, given his denial of all things science. Especially right before an election.Quote:
Originally Posted by xu82
I never said Covid was fake, so you can check yourself right there. I did say it was blown up by the media, and continue to believe so.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThrowDownDBrown
The rest of my statement that you quoted is a little tongue in cheek. I just find the timing of the announcement of the vaccine to be quite coincidental.
I think they are also concerned about politicization of the vaccine leading to people not wanting to take it, so they are probably taking significant steps to appear as apolitical as possible. This is doubly true in an environment in which many people were concerned about the Trump administration rushing a vaccine through for political expediency.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs. Garrett
I already know several people (all Trump supporters, although that may be a coincidence) that say that they are not taking the vaccine.
I'm sure the crazies on both sides will think its a government conspiracy or that it will cause autism and not take the vaccine.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozehound
I know people on both sides of the political spectrum that have no interest in being a guinea pig for the first round of vaccines. I'm happy to nominate Sleepy Joe Biden.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xville
You realize that's what Phase 3 testing is -Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamont Sanford
- ah, forget it.
Talked to a co-worker who returned from a couple year assignment in China in October. Landed in Detroit and was shocked to see everyone masked up. Apparently China isn't masking anymore.
Kids back to school:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xville
https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/...or-classrooms/
Crowds:
https://twitter.com/spettypi/status/1325153968687775744
Admissions of exageration:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...er_dailymailUK
Yep...
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I know quite a bit of people Liberal, Republicans, Libertarians, etc. that all said they aren't taking the vaccine either, just because it feels rushed due to political pressure, which I think is completely fair. I'm sure a lot of people will stay away, but the Pfizer news is interesting, I definitely am about to read up on it and see what it entails.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozehound
The most painful talk I have to give is the vaccines don't cause autism, talk.. people who are curious, who don't know what to believe because of all the stuff in the media? I love talking to them, I love someone who is genuinely curious and wants to find out more about the subject matter, but holy shit the ones that completely dismiss any evidence you put forth against it and just start going off the walls are something else...Quote:
Originally Posted by Xville
Connecting the Dots: The Great Reset & The Fourth Industrial Revolution
A little long, but extremely informative (perhaps eye-opening):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=de...&v=O31AfWoBfaI
I would be interested in your perspective as to whether the vaccine fears are justified - i.e. is there anything used in the vaccine that would potentially cause long term issues?Quote:
Originally Posted by GIMMFD
My general thinking is that as long as it goes through a normal FDA approval process I would probably take the vaccine. It may not be entirely risk free, but getting COVID isn't risk free either.
Well, I have a COVID test scheduled for tomorrow morning. A number of us from work went out for drinks Monday night with someone who was in from out of town. The next morning, the person I was sitting next to lost his sense it taste and smell. He went to get tested and came back positive, so those of us sitting close to him are under house arrest until we get a negative test result. Yippee. [emoji2357]
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You guys need to attack it right away with Zinc, Vitamin C and D - I did and only had very mild symptoms.Quote:
Originally Posted by bjf123
Obviously I’ll let him answer the question you proposed, but wanted to give you a little background on the vaccine.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozehound
The Pfizer (and Moderna) used something we haven’t utilized before in genetic technology. It’s called synthetic messenger RNA and ironically it’s been around for 3 decades. Basically mRNA uses genetic material to cause the body to create a protein from the virus. Then, the immune system recognizes the virus and learns to attack.
With that said, we won’t know the scope of side effects until the third week of November. This will be when half of the patients in their study have been observed for any safety issues for at least two months following their second dose. I’m keeping my fingers crossed and committed to getting the vaccination at this point.