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I camp on bureau of land mgmt. land and can get a test anytime I want one, moron. Same with my son who works in the medical supply field. I camped all over the Rockies this summer and rarely even saw another person unless I was loading up supplies or fishing.Quote:
Originally Posted by XU_Lou
I don't envy you. That is a tough position to be in. Excluding people becomes very difficult, particularly with the politically charged environment right now. I think it's reasonable (but challenging) to set up some criteria around testing and limiting contacts for attendees if you are going to be spending time indoors together. It's hard to do though, and when you throw in interstate travel and college age kids it becomes doubly difficult.Quote:
Originally Posted by xu82
We are wrestling with similar (but lesser) concerns around our planned Halloween gathering with our neighborhood friends, but at least that is outside and only for a few hours so far less risky.
I invested in two propane patio heaters this year. I wish I had bought a third, but they are tough to find right now. They give off some serious heat, but it will probably still be a bit chilly depending on the specific weather that day!Quote:
Originally Posted by JTG
You just have to ignore some people, man. It's not worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
Hmmm, seems really hard to believe that you won't come into contact with any other people on this trip.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
So, it's just you and your son for Thanksgiving - no one else?
Where exactly is there any BLM land anywhere near Huntington Beach?
Who goes to Las Vegas to camp on BLM land? What's the point? So you're going to make this side trip to the party capitol of the world, just to camp outside of city limits, and then never go into the city? Again, why would anyone do that?
Typical lib - rules for thee, but none for me....
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Originally Posted by XU_Lou
I understand it's a sprint to election day. But I really don't understand the big rallies.
We've seen spreading events from close quarters church events without masks, and open air Rose Garden events without masks...neither with distancing.
If you're the president, and the safety of Americans is a top priority, why would you risk placing unmasked people, packed tightly together, at a rally when the case numbers are spiking. And those people are cheering loudly which only means wider spread patterns.
Guess what I really don't understand is why more people aren't concerned by this. Guess it'll all be over in a few days.
There's your problem. Ego is the top priority. Everything else, including the American people, are a distant second. We have like 50 years of Donald Trump as a public figure to base this on.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulxu
Although I agree with this when it comes to trump, I think this applies to most politicians. I basically think you either have to have a screw loose or be an egomaniacal figure to run for federal public office these days. I mean if you believe the bs of " I'm running because I care and will work for the american people" nonsense then I have a bridge to sell ya.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozehound
Yeah. That's almost definitely true. I'm sure it takes a level of ego / narcissism to want to run for Public office - particularly at a National level. I'd like to think that at least some of them are in it for both reasons i.e. they are egomaniacs who also happen to care about the American people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xville
Get out of your bubble BOZO. Try to enjoy yourself once in a while. BTW, I have never said I'm in lockdown so don't know what the hell you're talking about. Funny you didn't criticize anyone else here who said they were having outdoor events.Quote:
Originally Posted by XU_Lou
Camping is easy and fun. Stay anywhere as long as you want. Your idea of camping is a 48 ft. motorhome in the Holiday Inn parking lot. lol
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Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
Hey BOZO - I'm calling you out for being a hypocrite, a liar and a phony!
Troll on. Troll King. My annual plans to visit my son really seems to upset you. HahahahahaBwahaha what a moron!
Bubblelou!!!
I agree. Lou and Xville are probably the same troll.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozehound
Well, I came here to post a link to an interesting write-up, but instead I’ll just get some popcorn and watch this show!
Well, here it is. Interesting read on the disappearing flu and our favorite PCR tests:
https://twitter.com/thomas_binder/st...367140864?s=21
Back on topic, worst covid day ever. Somebody gets it every 1.2 seconds. Hoax
Actually to be correct, there’s a positive test every 1.2 seconds. Hoax is right.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
0 to 15, be over by the weekend, oops, 84k cases and the day ain't over.
US was less than 10% of global cases today. Real bad day.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
Give it up Bobbie - we all know you're pimping fear porn for Biden. We all know your game.... it ain't working....
I mean, if you were really that concerned and afraid, would you really be going on a cross-country trip to California and Las Vegas, Mr. Superspreader? You really ought to make an effort to stop beclowning yourself...
Get out of the house Bubblelou, Maybe do another Seinfeld outside.
I'm not sure what this is, except for a twitter feed with a very clear and strong perspective. The Author's perspective seemed to be the only perspective considered. I'm not sure who Thomas Binder is, but he appears to be a random M.D. whose qualifications I know nothing about. That seems like a really low standard of credibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton
It seems like he was saying that COVID was around all 'Flu Season' last year, but that we didn't catch it until Feb because we weren't testing for it. I'm open to that idea, but why did we not see the surge in patients hospitalized earlier in the season?
It seems hard to dispute at this point that this is a highly contagious virus that is significantly more lethal than the Flu. Even when you go down the rabbit hole of Doctors over-counting COVID deaths there is A LOT that you would have to believe in order to believe that this is not a serious situation. I think we can certainly debate the effectiveness of Lockdowns and whether the 'cure' is worse than the disease in those instances, but the desire to almost dismiss the premise seems like something we should have moved past at this point.
This Thomas Binder guy gets around:
https://arcdigital.media/how-one-doc...a-d76459ffa4e2
Damn. Sounds like super credible guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulxu
I continue to be amazed that people will wholesale discount everything the 'mainstream media' says as false, but will apply almost no skepticism to a random twitter feed that happens to align with their worldview. I'm not saying the media isn't biased, just that a similar standard of skepticism should probably be applied to 'alternative' sources as well.
For my part, I don't even read twitter because it's such a bullshit factory.
everyday i believe more and more that the world would be a much better place without social media. I think the bad that it has done to society on multiple levels far outweighs any good.
If it weren't for my favorite sports teams and my kids' HS sports I'd never be on it. There's some crazy stat out there that says something like 95% of the twitter content is driven by 10% of the users.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozehound
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Originally Posted by Smails
I recently deleted Facebook from my phone for about 3 weeks and totally stopped engaging with it. I have since resumed some usage, however I now unfollow anyone who posts political crap. I just want to see updates from my friends and pictures of their kids. That's it. I'd also gladly pay a nominal subscription fee to avoid all the ads, and general mess that comes with trying to monitize this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xville
Twitter is just a complete dumpster fire. I'm sure there is some kind of way these people are turning a profit based on people following or liking their tweets.
I don't do Facebook. My wife does and noted that people will post something, and it will show she "liked" it (I think with a thumbs up sign) and she says she never saw the post, and doesn't do the like/dislike thing. I assume someone (or program) on Facebook does it.
You guys are crazy. Facebook is fantastic. I don't have an account, but my wife does, and all of both of our families and friends are connected with her on Facebook. She scrolls through it every day. I tell her to let me know if there's anything meaningful going on that I should know about. Twice a year like clockwork she'll report something noteworthy to me. So if you've got the system set up like i do, it's great!
Those are you kids birthdays shes reminding you of...so good deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoMuskies
And we have three kids, so even SHE forgets one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulxu
If she is looking at it on her phone, she is probably accidentally hitting like with her thumb as she is scrolling.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulxu
According to the Global Covid Tracker from John's Hopkins, 1.2 million people who previously died from Covid rose from the dead today. So congrats to them.
Either that, or it's a glitch on their website. Will wait and see.
Maybe they are correcting all those over-counted deaths.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoMuskies
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Originally Posted by boozehound
They were needed at the polls.
So the US had its largest number of reported cases ever yesterday, and a large swath of Europe (UK, Spain, France, Italy, Belgium, the Netherlands) are somewhere between significantly worse than the US to much, much worse than the US on a per capita basis at this point.
This says two things to me: first, we're likely in for a major increase in this shit in the next few weeks/months. Second, I'm not sure how much "managing" this matters. We absolutely could have done some things different/better. But based on what we're seeing in Europe (who certainly handled it differently than we did), we were going to get pretty well boned by this no matter what.
Exactly, its a virus and more devious than any virus we have ever seen b/c you can have it with little/no symptoms. Aside from shutting the entire country down for 30 days, I don't think there's a damn thing we can do about it. Its going to run its course and we wont have any real progress until a vaccine is made available. Blaming each other instead of working together for a relief bill and a unifying message for the country is whats wrong with our political system and leadership (on both sides).Quote:
Originally Posted by GoMuskies
I agree. I haven't really studied the difference between countries that that had major outbreaks and countries that haven't to see if there is anything (reasonable) that can be done. There is also the possibility that countries that haven't had an outbreak are just lucky, or haven't had one yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoMuskies
Australia and New Zealand are quite possibly just outliers, for example Asia is an interesting case study to me though - people live on top of each other there, but they have not had the magnitude of outbreaks that we have seen in Europe or the US.
Nope. Wrong. Trump is responsible for all the deaths. Biden said so.Quote:
Originally Posted by bleedXblue
and A LOT of people believed in himQuote:
Originally Posted by bigdiggins