Covid-19

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Originally Posted by xu82

This, to me, is a rational post that is neither “this side” nor “that side”. We need to remain nimble and able to pivot when circumstances say we should. I’ll get the booster, but I’m in no rush. I’m not petrified by the thought of illness, I just want to avoid the whole nasty hospitalization/death scenario. I would not be shocked it I had it once before the vax, and another milder time post-vax. Here I am, annoying all of you with yet another post! :-)

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Yeah, you're not as "middle" as you think you are.

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Originally Posted by noteggs

As many know, I’m pro vax. However, I completely don’t understand what the hell government and medical community are doing! This vaccine campaign is now like the flu shot.

What I mean is the flu shot is historically somewhat effective against the current strain which is initially based off a guess from other countries data (longer story but you get the point). No adjustments are made with flu vaccine because “well we came close and hope we get better next year.” Current covid vaccine is/may still be a good option to protect yourself from serious outcomes or hospitalizations.

Of course, not great either. But we have known the specific variant lineage in all 10 mutations (ok we eventually know with the flu season but we accept the consequences) and haven’t done a damn thing about it. We are extremely late to ask the pharma companies to adjust the vaccine based on other variants and that goes for monoclonal antibodies.

Why wasn’t this done when Delta was becoming prevalent last summer? I can see why someone would delay the booster a month or two until the vax companies can come up with a tested and more effective formulation (big if) for the variants. Not for elderly and immunocompromised of course. Also, if you feel strongly on getting the booster, please do so because this is just one man’s rant and there are benefits in doing so.

I’m just upset we haven’t been proactive and government/medical knows damn well we could have done better. Selling a covid booster to the public with better effectiveness would be so much easier especially with the number of breakthrough cases people hear about on a daily basis. Better yet, just show you are trying to do something differently vs just saying “get the jab, booster or wear a mast.”

Sorry if we have an abundance of current vaccine in stock, but it’s just matter of time before the virus starts to evade the vaccine and natural immunity if they don’t act now. Sounds like the Omicron has 15 mutations in its receptor binding domain compared to 2 for Delta. Even though late in my opinion, it would be a good time to start with the Omicron if it becomes prevalent. Yes I know, jury is still out on Omicron, but we should be prepared nonetheless.

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Maybe they can't do a damn thing about the flu variations or COVID (in vaccine form) because that's how viruses work? Oh, I noticed you left out anti-bodies and natural immunity. You know, real science.

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Yeah, you're not as "middle" as you think you are.

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And the winner is.... ^^^^^

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Yeah, you're not as "middle" as you think you are.

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Somewhere between thinking the vaccine is the devil (lou) and thinking the vaccine is the silver bullet as it stands right now is the middle. So, I’m not sure what you are getting at.

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Originally Posted by XU_Lou

Would this explain why "At least 69 athletes collapse in one month, many dead"

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235 million vaccinated. Like the odds.

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Originally Posted by Xville

Somewhere between thinking the vaccine is the devil (lou) and thinking the vaccine is the silver bullet as it stands right now is the middle. So, I’m not sure what you are getting at.

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looks like we're making progress....

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Originally Posted by XU_Lou

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They’re not ready Lou. :)

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Yeah, you're not as "middle" as you think you are.

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Please, feel free to tell me how I feel about things and where I stand.

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

They’re not ready Lou. :)

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Unfortunately, you're probably right!