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07-24-2020, 12:56 PM
XU_Lou

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Originally Posted by boozehound

So you gravitate toward even more biased and less credible reporting that confirms your bias? That's the part I don't get - I completely agree with you that the media should strive for objectivity at all times. They will never be completely free of bias though (nothing is).

Which 'actual, real story' should the MSM be covering? The one about Dr. Fauci's fastball?

Oh, you are probably talking about the Louie Gohmert story. I can take a stab at that one. Every day hundreds of potentially newsworthy things happen. Louie Gohmert is a Representative of a rural district in East Texas who has a rich history of making ridiculous statements and introducing ridiculous legislature that is doomed to fail. He also more than dabbles in conspiracy theories. The only people who think this is news are people who are obsessed with 'sticking it to the libs'.

Good grief, disparaging the source of a story is soooo tired and lame... it's about as tired and lame as when you all call us racists for something you disagree with....
07-24-2020, 01:05 PM
Juice

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Originally Posted by XU_Lou

Maybe you should watch the eulogy of Senator Robert Byrd - all the current Democrats had high praise for this Democrat Senate Majority Leader - who was once an Exalted Cyclops of the Ku Klux Klan. Yea, so don't pretend that racism within the highest reaches of the Democrat Party was all that long ago. In fact, the racism of the party has shifted from blacks to whites in the last few years.

Biden called Byrd a mentor and a friend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BQNEAFlfmQ
07-24-2020, 01:46 PM
xuphan

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Originally Posted by Juice

Biden called Byrd a mentor and a friend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BQNEAFlfmQ

It’s obvious this country needs a third major political party.
07-24-2020, 03:08 PM
Muskie in dayton

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Originally Posted by boozehound

So you gravitate toward even more biased and less credible reporting that confirms your bias? That's the part I don't get

First, I repeat, it's not my bias. I have some conservative views, I have some liberal views, I have some views that make both sides' heads explode. I don't care if small news outlets have a bias, as long as they own it.

My problem is with the Mainstream Media, which claims to be fair an honest but is anything but. People who blissfully ignorant, which is most, have CBS/NBC/ABC evening news come on while they're at the dinner table. They trust it to be fair and honest because that's what news always was for years, and they get fed bullshit. That's the issue.
07-24-2020, 03:09 PM
Muskie in dayton

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Originally Posted by xuphan

It’s obvious this country needs a third major political party.

Amen to that.
07-24-2020, 03:26 PM
X-man

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Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton

First, I repeat, it's not my bias. I have some conservative views, I have some liberal views, I have some views that make both sides' heads explode. I don't care if small news outlets have a bias, as long as they own it.

My problem is with the Mainstream Media, which claims to be fair an honest but is anything but. People who blissfully ignorant, which is most, have CBS/NBC/ABC evening news come on while they're at the dinner table. They trust it to be fair and honest because that's what news always was for years, and they get fed bullshit. That's the issue.

Isn't it Fox that bogusly claims that it is "fair and balanced"? And BTW, I would argue that a truly unbiased newspaper is the Wall Street Journal. While I disagree with most of their opinion people, their journalism is absolutely first rate.
07-24-2020, 03:32 PM
Muskie in dayton

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Originally Posted by X-man

Isn't it Fox that bogusly claims that it is "fair and balanced"? And BTW, I would argue that a truly unbiased newspaper is the Wall Street Journal. While I disagree with most of their opinion people, their journalism is absolutely first rate.

Re: Fox news, I couldn't tell you. I never watch it or any of the cable news channels. They actually are worse than the MSM. I agree the Wall Street Journal is excellent. I also think the news channels in the Cincinnati market are fair, but they don't hit the hard issues much.
07-24-2020, 06:05 PM
XU_Lou

Looks like racism will officially become part of the Democrat Party platform (actually they're just codifying it now):

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-and-too-evil/
07-24-2020, 06:59 PM
noteggs

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Originally Posted by boozehound

So you gravitate toward even more biased and less credible reporting that confirms your bias? That's the part I don't get - I completely agree with you that the media should strive for objectivity at all times. They will never be completely free of bias though (nothing is).

Which 'actual, real story' should the MSM be covering? The one about Dr. Fauci's fastball?

Oh, you are probably talking about the Louie Gohmert story. I can take a stab at that one. Every day hundreds of potentially newsworthy things happen. Louie Gohmert is a Representative of a rural district in East Texas who has a rich history of making ridiculous statements and introducing ridiculous legislature that is doomed to fail. He also more than dabbles in conspiracy theories. The only people who think this is news are people who are obsessed with 'sticking it to the libs'.

You know I don’t mind slanted sources on either side because it gives me an opportunity to dig into the subject to find its validity. I like to find interesting stories that I may or may not agree politically. That way you don’t live in your own political bubble.

Unfortunately for me, MSM tries to create a narrative to fit their agenda. I’ve seen this trend long before Trump was elected as I’ve recently stated. Sure you can say 1,000 stories can be reported on any day which is true, but when they do seem to be slanted for one political party. Last time I checked MSM’s political affiliations, only 7% claimed to be Republicans. This doesn’t mention the disparity in political donations. We would have to be pretty naive to think this doesn’t drive a slight bias.

The reason I bring all this up, I can’t blame right leaning folks for utilizing some right leaning sources because sometimes that’s all they got.
07-24-2020, 07:13 PM
bjf123

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Originally Posted by X-man

Isn't it Fox that bogusly claims that it is "fair and balanced"? And BTW, I would argue that a truly unbiased newspaper is the Wall Street Journal. While I disagree with most of their opinion people, their journalism is absolutely first rate.

I would at least argue their news coverage is more balanced. Their talking head shows are clearly conservative. Sadly, too many people think shows like Hannity, Don Lemon, Rachel Maddow, etc., are news when they’re anything but.

I remember reading about a study some university journalism program did of TV news coverage of either the W vs Kerry election or Obama vs McCain. They rated each news story, again not opinion stories, as either positive or negative towards the candidate. Fox was actually “fair and balanced” at that time, with the same ratio of positive vs negative stories about each candidate. CNN was next but had slightly more positive stories about the Democratic candidate and slightly more negative stories about the Republican candidate. MSNBC was the worst by far, with something Iike 70/30 in favor of the Democrat and 75/25 negative towards the Republican.

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