Politics Thread

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Originally Posted by ArizonaXUGrad

I believe the count was 2 members of Congress and why did Congress approve it in the first place.

Second, I am going to guess you have no idea what is truly going on between Israel and Palestine. Israel has no intention of ever letting Palestine become a true sovereign nation. I wish they would just come out and say it, at this point instead of insisting on acting like their overlords.

There are Palestinians that are just awful, but Israel controls basic services to Palestine like electricity and water. If they decide they don't like the behavior over in Palestine, they can just flip those switches to 'off'.

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True liberal...defend palestine. Ill stand with israel who is our ally or was until Obama got ahold of them.

So yeah, you have no idea what is going on over there. Palestinians are a-holes for sure, but Israel is doing next to nothing to deescalate the situation.

I have an idea that not many who are posting on this thread have any idea what Obama did for this country. Do you even remember 8 years ago? We were operating day-to-day. You might like what he did, but he got us out of that. Now some of his solutions created more problems, but hands down we are better off now than 8 years ago and to say otherwise is either ignorant or ignoring facts.

Also, his 8 years of foreign policy definitely has mistakes. I am sure that same group forgot, he inherited two wars. He ended both, but then inherited the very instability the CIA warned Bush about in the first place. In the end, he didn't escalate any situation any farther than it had to. He didn't enter into any massive armed conflict either. All this and also Russian sanctions are working today, whether Trump rescinds them or not is yet to be seen.

You can gripe all you want and proclaim Trump as the second coming, but in the end you are just ignoring the truth.

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Originally Posted by Xville

True liberal...defend palestine. Ill stand with israel who is our ally or was until Obama got ahold of them.

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Originally Posted by ArizonaXUGrad

So yeah, you have no idea what is going on over there. Palestinians are a-holes for sure, but Israel is doing next to nothing to deescalate the situation.

I have an idea that not many who are posting on this thread have any idea what Obama did for this country. Do you even remember 8 years ago? We were operating day-to-day. You might like what he did, but he got us out of that. Now some of his solutions created more problems, but hands down we are better off now than 8 years ago and to say otherwise is either ignorant or ignoring facts.

Also, his 8 years of foreign policy definitely has mistakes. I am sure that same group forgot, he inherited two wars. He ended both, but then inherited the very instability the CIA warned Bush about in the first place. In the end, he didn't escalate any situation any farther than it had to. He didn't enter into any massive armed conflict either. All this and also Russian sanctions are working today, whether Trump rescinds them or not is yet to be seen.

You can gripe all you want and proclaim Trump as the second coming, but in the end you are just ignoring the truth.

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Ha your version of the truth. You saying the sanctions have worked is all i need to know that you have no clue and live in a safe space somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Xville

Im just glad that obama released 221 million to palestine in one of his last acts as president. I mean what better way to use that kind of money. That last act basically just summed up his entire presidency. What a joke.

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Then you really must be pissed about the $10Billion+ for a f***ing wall

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Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun

Then you really must be pissed about the $10Billion+ for a f***ing wall

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The wall belongs in our epic WTF thread.

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Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun

Then you really must be pissed about the $10Billion+ for a f***ing wall

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Don't worry. The "Money from Mexico" will be derived from the confiscated billions from El Chapo.

He's allegedly worth a cool $14 billion.

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Originally Posted by ArizonaXUGrad

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought Trump's idea of infrastructure went through the his private sector friends. Basically convince the private sector to build roads/bridges and pay them back via tax credits who could then charge us tolls if they so desire.

I thought what a fantastic idea, nothing I want more than to be charged to drive on roads on my way to work more than I am through my gas taxes.

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Amazing how that is exactly what Liberal Canada did. Ever drive on the fully privately funded and tollled 407 north of Toronto? Genius.

Canada got a group of investors from Mexico to build a whole new expressway north of the incredibly congested 401. And it is working beautifully. It is totally electronic toll so if you're a Yank like me, they take a pic of your license plate and send you a bill. Great highway with good design and a real time saver.

You do realize that driving on toll roads is also the go to move in NY, Chicago, New Jersey, and almost all of New England. At least with a new road funded the Canada way, there isn't a capital expenditure required from the state.

The $10billion estimate is "conservative" (see what I did there?)... it's likely in the $25-$30billion range. But I will gladly take $14B from el chapo. That's one bad hombre!

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Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun

Then you really must be pissed about the $10Billion+ for a f***ing wall

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Why did Obama lend money to Jordan to keep ISIS out of their country? Why did he give money to Mexico for their border with Guatemala? I guess he believed in walls too.

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Originally Posted by Juice

Why did Obama lend money to Jordan to keep ISIS out of their country? Why did he give money to Mexico for their border with Guatemala? I guess he believed in walls too.

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Yea Obama loves walls! Wtf does this post even mean? Are you implying ISIS will come through the Mexican border?