Covid-19

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Originally Posted by XU_Lou

Hey, too much fear porn is making you blind...

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Yet you’re the one who thinks the media and the government are all in on some conspiracy while you hide out in your survival bomb shelter. Talk about fear porn. You need to get a life outside of your computer….seriously.

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Originally Posted by xu82

Is that really the best you have?

I’m back to thinking this is a joke.

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Originally Posted by Xville

Yet you’re the one who thinks the media and the government are all in on some conspiracy while you hide out in your survival bomb shelter. Talk about fear porn. You need to get a life outside of your computer….seriously.

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Why don't you two just admit it - you two hate me because I'm not a scared little kittie like you. You're pissed because I'm not an obedient lemming. Admit it, it kills you that I think for myself and don't rely on authoritarians to tell me what to do.

Woof woof....

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Originally Posted by XU_Lou

Why don't you two just admit it - you two hate me because I'm not a scared little kittie like you. You're pissed because I'm not an obedient lemming. Admit it, it kills you that I think for myself and don't rely on authoritarians to tell me what to do.

Woof woof....

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I can only speak for myself, but I will say I don’t hate you, I’m not scared either and I think virtually nothing about you. I had almost forgotten the time I spent ignoring you. I’m back to thinking you just need attention.

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Originally Posted by XU_Lou

Why don't you two just admit it - you two hate me because I'm not a scared little kittie like you. You're pissed because I'm not an obedient lemming. Admit it, it kills you that I think for myself and don't rely on authoritarians to tell me what to do.

Woof woof....

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Think for yourself or Alex Berenson’s lap dog?

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Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun

False assumption. You are implying that ALL vaccinated can get and transmit the virus which is unlikely true. Here is why.

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Interesting stuff in here:

In all 37 case patients for whom data were available regarding the source of infection, the suspected source was an unvaccinated person; in 21 patients (57%), this person was a household member.

In 11 of 37 case patients (30%), the suspected source was an unvaccinated fellow health care worker or patient;

Especially the second one, don't understand how anybody working in a hospital doesn't want to be vaccinated right now.

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Originally Posted by GIMMFD

Interesting stuff in here:

In all 37 case patients for whom data were available regarding the source of infection, the suspected source was an unvaccinated person; in 21 patients (57%), this person was a household member.

In 11 of 37 case patients (30%), the suspected source was an unvaccinated fellow health care worker or patient;

Especially the second one, don't understand how anybody working in a hospital doesn't want to be vaccinated right now.

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Several of our friends and neighbors are Doctors and a few others work in hospital administration. Still a relatively small sample size, obviously, but they say that all of the Doctors are vaccinated and virtually all of the nurses. When you see the stats about 'medical professionals' being unvaccinated and spreading COVID at lot of it is probably orderlies and staff at nursing homes and LTC facilities.

We are also in NJ which is pretty highly vaccinated, so that may change when you change geography.

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Originally Posted by xu82

I can only speak for myself, but I will say I don’t hate you, I’m not scared either and I think virtually nothing about you. I had almost forgotten the time I spent ignoring you. I’m back to thinking you just need attention.

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Please just put him on 'ignore' like the rest of of have and move on. You are arguing with the crazy guy on the street corner. He isn't going to see your point. There are people you disagree with, and people that just aren't worth talking too. Ask yourself which one he is.

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Originally Posted by GIMMFD

Interesting stuff in here:

In all 37 case patients for whom data were available regarding the source of infection, the suspected source was an unvaccinated person; in 21 patients (57%), this person was a household member.

In 11 of 37 case patients (30%), the suspected source was an unvaccinated fellow health care worker or patient;

Especially the second one, don't understand how anybody working in a hospital doesn't want to be vaccinated right now.

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Yes I think this is pretty encouraging for the vaccine and especially a booster. It gives some major credence to do more research on titer levels. Also more data on viral load in those vaccinated vs unvaccinated would be nice. It looks like most of those with breakthrough cases have lower viral loads. Would be nice to confirm that.

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Originally Posted by boozehound

Several of our friends and neighbors are Doctors and a few others work in hospital administration. Still a relatively small sample size, obviously, but they say that all of the Doctors are vaccinated and virtually all of the nurses. When you see the stats about 'medical professionals' being unvaccinated and spreading COVID at lot of it is probably orderlies and staff at nursing homes and LTC facilities.

We are also in NJ which is pretty highly vaccinated, so that may change when you change geography.

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I saw a news piece on Cincinnati Children's hospital last week and 30% of their MD's were not vaccinated and their overall number was around 50%. I was definitely surprised. This week Children's announced mandatory vaccines.

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Originally Posted by Smails

I saw a news piece on Cincinnati Children's hospital last week and 30% of their MD's were not vaccinated and their overall number was around 50%. I was definitely surprised. This week Children's announced mandatory vaccines.

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Wow that is a crazy low percentage. Wonder why….

The AMA poll a few weeks ago showed something like 97% of physicians fully vaccinated.