Covid-19

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Sure, and there are age groups where it is unnecessary.

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I guess it depends on your definition of 'necessary'. I assume that any age groups where the risk of getting the vaccine outweighs the risk of getting COVID won't be approved for the vaccine.

I have two 5 year olds and a 7 year old, and I'll probably get them vaccinated as soon as possible, unless credible evidence of significant side effects in their age group shows up in trials. I also am generally a believer in vaccines being a good thing though, and I'm not really suspicious about long term side effects.

Didn't we eradicate smallpox largely due to the development and distribution of a vaccine? Are you against kids being required to have the smallpox vaccine to attend school and play sports?

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Originally Posted by boozehound

I guess it depends on your definition of 'necessary'. I assume that any age groups where the risk of getting the vaccine outweighs the risk of getting COVID won't be approved for the vaccine.

I have two 5 year olds and a 7 year old, and I'll probably get them vaccinated as soon as possible, unless credible evidence of significant side effects in their age group shows up in trials. I also am generally a believer in vaccines being a good thing though, and I'm not really suspicious about long term side effects.

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Necessary in terms of severe illness, hospitalization or death.
Sure, don’t want the kids sick for a couple of days but it’s not necessary to long term health assuming the vax is safe for kids.

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Likely, however so is the chance the current vaccine/therapy will stop them (breakthroughs, diminished immunity).

You’re still not addressing why everyone must get them. I’m all for the vax but you/the Gov’t are going to have to work harder to explain why everyone must have them.

And no. Because me and my college educated social club think so isn’t going to fly with many Americans.

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https://www.fox29.com/news/covid-19-...nated-patients , I agree with Dr. Kamel's take, same things happening in Orlando, a trip through the ED and ICU is chaos right now, obviously that's a small sample and doesn't tell the whole story, but honestly, my reason is nothing more than being selfish, but I don't think many health care providers can go through this shit again quite honestly.

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Likely, however so is the chance the current vaccine/therapy will stop them (breakthroughs, diminished immunity).

You’re still not addressing why everyone must get them. I’m all for the vax but you/the Gov’t are going to have to work harder to explain why everyone must have them.

And no. Because me and my college educated social club think so isn’t going to fly with many Americans.

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Pretty sure he’s already answered the question and so have medical experts….if you want any chance of eradicating this thing, people have to get vaccinated. It’s not going to happen otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Xville

Pretty sure he’s already answered the question and so have medical experts….if you want any chance of eradicating this thing, people have to get vaccinated. It’s not going to happen otherwise.

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Eradicate? Are you high? The vax was meant to slow the spread and reduce hospitalizations. No one I’ve seen is talking about eradicating this anytime soon.

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Eradicate? Are you high? The vax was meant to slow the spread and reduce hospitalizations. No one I’ve seen is talking about eradicating this anytime soon.

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But aren’t slowing the spread and reducing hospitalizations good things on their own? Can’t eradication be a nice stretch goal? I don’t think you have to be high to dream for that (though it might help cope with this thread). Why people fight this so fervently is beyond me. Spare us all repeating the last 500 pages. It’s far more likely to help than hurt, so why just not do it? I know some people will try to respond to that rhetorical question, so let me tell you in advance I will most likely ignore your response. Even if you think you are smarter than everyone else, why not just play along? It’s not that hard, and there is virtually no downside.

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Originally Posted by xu82

But aren’t slowing the spread and reducing hospitalizations good things on their own? Can’t eradication be a nice stretch goal? I don’t think you have to be high to dream for that (though it might help cope with this thread). Why people fight this so fervently is beyond me. Spare us all repeating the last 500 pages. It’s far more likely to help than hurt, so why just not do it? I know some people will try to respond to that rhetorical question, so let me tell you in advance I will most likely ignore your response. Even if you think you are smarter than everyone else, why not just play along? It’s not that hard, and there is virtually no downside.

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Yes, 82 and I played along. So did you and millions of others. Great job everybody!

Now, why the crusade to force everyone else to play along?

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Yes, 82 and I played along. So did you and millions of others. Great job everybody!

Now, why the crusade to force everyone else to play along?

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Because it just might help other people. How’s that? It’s not a crusade. I honestly don’t pretend to have all the answers, unlike some others. I’m not positive, but I’ll go with the odds.

I just don’t see as much downside as upside. Why argue that? I respect personal choice, but question the motivation. Because the government tried to make me? Grow up. Because they are tracking me when I get the shot? Seek help.

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Originally Posted by xu82

Because it just might help other people. How’s that? It’s not a crusade. I honestly don’t pretend to have all the answers, unlike some others. I’m not positive, but I’ll go with the odds.

I just don’t see as much downside as upside. Why argue that? I respect personal choice, but question the motivation. Because the government tried to make me? Grow up. Because they are tracking me when I get the shot? Seek help.

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Fair. I don’t know people’s motivations and am always skeptical of Gov’t mandates (I quickly grew tired of the terror color codes post 911). There’s risk in a free society and frankly the Gov’t doesn’t have a good track record of relinquishing emergency powers (Patriot Act).