Politics Thread

Being from South Carolina, I'm watching Haley's deal a little.
She built some cred with difficult decisions in our state, but with the cover of not being able to stand for re-election after her second term.
Not sure she would have been my pick; would have preferred a more seasoned person with international experience for the UN.
But she's handle herself well so far.

I'm not a fan of this president or his picks. Think we are in for some challenging times.

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Originally Posted by Xville

Why? Do you have a better solution? South side of Chicago is so bad that police are scared to even take calls, and the ones that do are corrupt beyond belief. The Middle East has been fighting for thousands of years...why not just let them kill each other...they do it anyways without us telling them to do it. Our intervention in the grand scheme of things has done absolutely nothing to that region and it never will...yes there will be peace here and there for a year or so, and then they will start killing each other again. US has wasted trillions upon trillions of dollars on that region with no resolve.

Again I was kidding about the wall or dome, but really what solution do you impose? Does this country continue to spend trillions of dollars on an area of the world whose main focus is killing each other every day?

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Hahah I don't have a solution. That is just the most pessimistic and depressing view I've ever read.

In Israel the 2 state solution seems like the most feasible but I won't hold my breath. And our intervention is actually a big part of why that region is so tumultuous. We are a central reason why Israel is so strong and entrenched.

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Originally Posted by boozehound

Former President Jimmy Carter? Is that a serious statement, or tongue-in-cheek? Just the fact that he is a former President would (in my opinion at least) make him a far more logical individual to send over than a sperm-lucky real estate developer with no foreign policy experience. Political views notwithstanding he has plenty of foreign policy experience. Why don't we just send f*cking Omarosa over to Syria to fix that whole situation while we are at it.

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He's been sent over there several times and pro-Palestine, and accomplished nothing. His presidency was a disaster, which included the Iran Hostage Crisis. He's a failure.

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Garrett

How about just one winner in the bunch?

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I like a lot of them. Mnuchin, Tillerson, Ross, and Haley are all great. I wanted to like DeVos, but I just can't. Right message, wrong person is my initial impression. I am warming to Pruitt.

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Originally Posted by Caf

Hahah I don't have a solution. That is just the most pessimistic and depressing view I've ever read.

In Israel the 2 state solution seems like the most feasible but I won't hold my breath. And our intervention is actually a big part of why that region is so tumultuous. We are a central reason why Israel is so strong and entrenched.

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Yeah it is pretty pessimistic, but i think its also reality. I don't think anything America does in that area of the world is going to change anything in the long term. I mean look at Iraq...how long has America spent money in that country and is it any better than what it was 25-30 years ago? Not from what the news has told me...but its hard to tell what is the truth anymore.

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Originally Posted by Xville

Yeah it is pretty pessimistic, but i think its also reality. I don't think anything America does in that area of the world is going to change anything in the long term. I mean look at Iraq...how long has America spent money in that country and is it any better than what it was 25-30 years ago? Not from what the news has told me...but its hard to tell what is the truth anymore.

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Umm we changed everything about Iraq in the long term. Did we change it for the better? I guess that depends on who you ask. There are definitely no WMDs there anymore though! Yay!

I'm just glad that in less than 24 hours, America's 8 year nightmare will be over...will it be any better? I don't know but boy am I done with Obama.

Worst GDP Growth
Highest Debt
Slowest Wage Growth
Enemies Don't Fear Us
Allies Don't Trust Us
Complete Drop in Employee Participation because hey why work?

http://nypost.com/2017/01/14/its-tim...was-a-failure/

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...obs-ugly-truth

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Originally Posted by Caf

Umm we changed everything about Iraq in the long term. Did we change it for the better? I guess that depends on who you ask. There are definitely no WMDs there anymore though! Yay!

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or an evil dictator in power (yes, that we originally propped up...but yeah...)

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Originally Posted by Xville

I'm just glad that in less than 24 hours, America's 8 year nightmare will be over...will it be any better? I don't know but boy am I done with Obama.

Worst GDP Growth
Highest Debt
Slowest Wage Growth
Enemies Don't Fear Us
Allies Don't Trust Us
Complete Drop in Employee Participation because hey why work?

http://nypost.com/2017/01/14/its-tim...was-a-failure/

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This is my favorite statistic/fact about the Obama era because liberals always point to the unemployment rate while ignoring the enormous red flag that is the drop in those seeking work/employee participation.

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Originally Posted by Juice

or an evil dictator in power (yes, that we originally propped up...but yeah...)

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I don't know about you, but evil dictator might actually be a preferable to what's gone on.