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Originally Posted by scoscox

Right, he said that's what he presumed. No one actually told him that was the case. In fact, he was explicitly told the opposite. His personal belief about the situation is kind of irrelevant

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Time to move on for the Libs........they can only hurt themselves more (if that's possible) by continuing down this path. Win the 2020 election if you want Trump out

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Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee

130,000 Kurds who fought the war for us and 13,000 died. Lost their homes and were bombed on their way out. How would that go down in Shaker Heights? No problem I guess. Trump said fuck 'em 'cause they didn't help us in WWII. Really?

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Are you suggesting the US align against a NATO ally.

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Originally Posted by xudash

Agreed.
Sondland: “Jordan pressing Sondland now, about why he did not include Trump's statement saying "I want nothing" from Ukraine in his opening statement.
Sondland says he did not mean to omit that from his opener.”

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Of course he didn’t. Purely an accident. I’m calling BS.


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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Are you suggesting the US align against a NATO ally.

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Trump said he wants to pull out of NATO, so why would you care. Righty zealot graham wants to hit them with "veto proof' sanctions.

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Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee

Trump said he wants to pull out of NATO, so why would you care. Righty zealot graham wants to hit them with "veto proof' sanctions.

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He doesn’t want to pull out of NATO. He wants them to carry their own weight.

How can you possibly respond with “huh”. This is a charade.

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Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee

Trump said he wants to pull out of NATO, so why would you care. Righty zealot graham wants to hit them with "veto proof' sanctions.

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No President can pull out of a treaty nor commit the country to one (hi, Paris Accords and the Iran Deal).

Never said anything about Graham so...irrelevant.

So what is your point?

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Originally Posted by xudash

He doesn’t want to pull out of NATO. He wants them to carry their own weight.

How can you possibly respond with “huh”. This is a charade.

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

No President can pull out of a treaty nor commit the country to one (hi, Paris Accords and the Iran Deal).

Never said anything about Graham so...irrelevant.

So what is your point?

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https://www.salon.com/2019/01/15/tru...t-of-nato-nyt/

...and I said he wants to pull out of NATO, not that he could do it:

https://www.stripes.com/news/senator...llout-1.564994

https://youtu.be/rnIPw_Who7E

NATO is an interesting case and trump asking questions about its utility is a good thing. The Soviet Union, which nato was formed to oppose, has been gone for 30 years. It’s fair to ask why we still need nato.

Maybe you could ask the Ukrainians...especially those living in Crimea.