That may be too much to ask. Good recommendation, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun
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That may be too much to ask. Good recommendation, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun
Uh huh.Quote:
Originally Posted by X-man
And my own research shows that Trumps travel ban occurred on January 31.
The Iowa primary occurred February 3. Biden’s campaign event occurred on 2/1. Right after the travel ban.
But that was “fear mongering” and “xenophobic”, right?
Nice assumption but I don’t watch the news or any MSM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Masterofreality
Again, you are inferring context of his comments as response to China travel ban and not Trump as our leader during a pandemic in general, which is regurgitated garbage from your garbage media source. And I am not a Biden fan by any means.
Oh man, we are SOOOOOO fucked.
Trump specifically said NBC called him racist after the travel ban. Anyone have a link for that?
I mean I see so many people posting on social media, and Trump himself saying, that he was called racist for that by the media but I havent seen one piece of evidence to back that up.
Is it your position that Biden was NOT in fact referring to Trump's travel ban? Do you feel that he was referring to Trump in general and the fact he called him Xenophobic had nothing to do with the ban?...which was less than 48 hours old.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun
Yes that’s my position. I’m sure you could find multiple instances of Biden calling him a xenophobic even prior to the campaign rally (which also is pertinent). And Biden is not alone in that regard. Calling it the Chinese Virus intentionally is blatant xenophobia, sorry. When directly asked, Biden (and I really do not enjoy defending him) has supported travel bans and distancing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smails
I'd recommend anyone who can pull up CSPAN and listen to the debate going on in the US Senate over this stimulus.
Calling it the Chinese Virus is stupid.
I'm not going to say that Trump is a racist. I am going to say that he's not an epidemiologist or any sort of a scientist. This isn't something that is only effecting China. It isn't something that's only effecting people that have recently visited China. It isn't something that everyone else other than China was able to contain. There are typically actual epidemiological reasons that viruses and diseases are given the names they're given. To call it the Chinese Virus completely misrepresents what this actually is. It also probably means that he isn't listening to anyone that actually knows what the hell they're talking about. That's INCREDIBLY disturbing.
Most of what happens politically has no direct impact on anyone's life. People may not like how Hillary deleted a bunch of emails, or how Trump attacks Obama, or what was in the Mueller Report, or what wasn't in the Mueller Report, or who was appointed to the Supreme Court, or who wasn't appointed to the Supreme Court, or whatever. The thing is, almost none of that has a huge direct impact on peoples' day to day lives. You still work the same job, have the same doctors, live in the same house, and do the same things you'd be doing anyway.
That's not the case with this. You can't just ignore it. You can't just say it's under control when it isn't. You can't say that we are close to a vaccine when we are not. You can't say that we have medicines to treat it when we don't. You can't say that it's going to be gone in 15 days when it won't be. You can't continue to ignore or downplay this problem and not listen to the people who know what they're talking about. The virus is not Trump's fault at all, but the way he is managing it is making it infinitely worse. He can't keep it from spreading simply by saying that it won't. He can't say that anyone who wants to get a test can get a test and that the tests are wonderful when the tests do not actually exist. He can't get people treatment by saying we have medicines that we think will work when in reality no one is really sure whether they will or won't. He can't make this better in fifteen days by simply saying it's going to be better in fifteen days. Lying about this is not like lying about emails or porn stars. Just saying things won't do anything to mitigate it. If anything, it will actually make it a lot worse.
I'm of German descent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun
Is the "German Measles" racist, or does that only apply to non-white references? I'm not offended.
Or how about the "Spanish Flu"? Is that racist against Spain?
How about 'West Nile Virus"? Is that racist against Egyptians?
How about Ebola and Zika viruses. Is that racist against West Africa or Uganda? Or is it that a Black President can call them that but when a white president refers to the disease source he's "racist" or 'xenophobic"?
This virus originated and was covered up in China. This manufactured controversy is total boolsheet. Period.