Politics Thread

What’s most important to voters? It’s always going to be money. Every single time. What we saw was a flip in voters that had traditionally voted Democrat vote for Trump because he promised jobs. He wisely used illegal immigration as a main threat to jobs. The economy has been improving since Obama was in office, but you wouldn’t have known it during the 2016 campaigns. By the time we circle back in 2020, how we make money will again be the most important issue. Tht is why Trump will likely win again without a strategy shift from Democrats. They’re focusing on the wrong issues to get their traditional base fired up and fringe voters back on their side. They’re too distracted by his racist rhetoric and outrageous commentary to focus on important issues.

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Originally Posted by scoscox

Trumps policies were at least popular though even if he isn’t. Restricting both legal and illegal immigration is the most popular issue for Americans. The. Most. Of course you’d never know this the way the media and political class behave

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From what I've found, you're not giving Trump enough credit. He made immigration the biggest issue.

Government Named Top U.S. Problem for Second Straight Year - Gallup 2016

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Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun

What’s most important to voters? It’s always going to be money. Every single time. What we saw was a flip in voters that had traditionally voted Democrat vote for Trump because he promised jobs. He wisely used illegal immigration as a main threat to jobs. The economy has been improving since Obama was in office, but you wouldn’t have known it during the 2016 campaigns. By the time we circle back in 2020, how we make money will again be the most important issue. Tht is why Trump will likely win again without a strategy shift from Democrats. They’re focusing on the wrong issues to get their traditional base fired up and fringe voters back on their side. They’re too distracted by his racist rhetoric and outrageous commentary to focus on important issues.

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You hit the nail on the head. As Bill Clinton's campaign preached -- "it's the economy, stupid."

And as Jason Williams (who's actually a great voice in an otherwise terrible paper) for the Enquirer said this morning -- "CNN and Twitter aren't the real world. Ohio and Kentucky are."

I did not go last night, but am more convinced than ever Trump will win 2020. Middle America will never vote for the candidates who spoke in Detroit the last few days. Thank god for the electoral college.

I think Biden would stand a chance against Trump if he wins the nomination and then moves to the center during the general election. The rest dont stand a freaking chance...they are all complete looney bins.

We've got a new Red Scare going on. People are now seriously claiming Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian asset sent in to disrupt the Democratic primaries. There's some next level tinfoil-hatting going on these days.

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Originally Posted by Xville

I think Biden would stand a chance against Trump if he wins the nomination and then moves to the center during the general election. The rest dont stand a freaking chance...they are all complete looney bins.

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I really hate to say this, but I think Bernie has a chance for the same reason Trump won. He's going to blame everyone's problems on someone else (the rich and corporations) and promise solutions. Seems like a winning formula nowadays.

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Originally Posted by Caf

I really hate to say this, but I think Bernie has a chance for the same reason Trump won. He's going to blame everyone's problems on someone else (the rich and corporations) and promise solutions. Seems like a winning formula nowadays.

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I think he would probably win the popular vote, but I dont think he would stand a chance in the 4-5 states that actually matter every 4 years.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

We've got a new Red Scare going on. People are now seriously claiming Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian asset sent in to disrupt the Democratic primaries. There's some next level tinfoil-hatting going on these days.

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Is your source RedState? Child, please. Everything I have read suggests that the Russians appear to be backing Gabbard on their known troll sites because she has the least chance of defeating Russia's preferred US leader, Trump.

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Originally Posted by Caf

From what I've found, you're not giving Trump enough credit. He made immigration the biggest issue.

Government Named Top U.S. Problem for Second Straight Year - Gallup 2016

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This is where I get confused. I’ve seen polls like this where people think government is the problem. Yet people put so much faith in them fixing our ill’s. Guess I need a little more information on what it means that “government is the problem”. I automatically think of spending and size/scope (I know surprise coming from me), but I’m sure there’s a lot more to that question like political conflict as the article alludes to.

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Originally Posted by X-man

Is your source RedState? Child, please. Everything I have read suggests that the Russians appear to be backing Gabbard on their known troll sites because she has the least chance of defeating Russia's preferred US leader, Trump.

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Even X-Man is wearing the tin-foil. Russia, Russia everywhere!