Sumner Medical Redshirt

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Originally Posted by muskiefan82

My guess is that when it is obvious that you won't have as much/no pain if you wait, it makes it a little easier to cope with.

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London at least can practice and improve. Really hope he can at least add 10-15 pounds and fill out some for next year.

My son went through the same type of growth spurt in High School. As as freshman he was 5'4" as a senior he was 6'2". Very painful as his tendons and knees would hurt as they would were not growing as the same rate as his bones.

Hope Sumner accepts it in stride and continues to grows into a fine XU graduate we all hope he can. And then maybe help us on the course the next few years.

I think Sumner is going to be really, really good.......if he can get his health in order. Reminds me a lot of Semaj with his size and quickness. Another poster questioned if he could grow out of the PG spot. I don't think so.

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Originally Posted by bleedXblue

I just read that non-qualifiers can gain back a year of eligibility if they complete 80% of their degree prior to the beginning of their 5th year of school.


http://ucirvine.prestosports.com/ins...ringhouse_faqs

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Thanks for the research. Reynolds and Myles should have no problem meeting that goal, but I had assumed before there were no conditions.

Concerning Sumner's PG status, as a recruit he was billed as more of a combo guard than a true point guard, so we'll see how he develops. I doubt he will ever turn into a pure wing, but if he turns out to be a combo guard, it's nice that he's already as tall as an NBA combo (unlike, say, Lyons or even Tu).

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"There's no concern long-term that Edmond's going to be not fine. He's going to be 100 percent. But in order for Edmond to really feel like he's got his legs under him, it's probably in his best interest to medically redshirt this year. And so that's what we're looking to do with Edmond. He'll still be able to practice when he can but again, we're more concerned about Edmond's long-term health than we are getting him ready next month, and that's a decision that we've come to make over the last week or so."

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http://www.cincinnati.com/story/xavi...hirt/20478039/

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Originally Posted by XUFan09

Thanks for the research. Reynolds and Myles should have no problem meeting that goal, but I had assumed before there were no conditions.

Concerning Sumner's PG status, as a recruit he was billed as more of a combo guard than a true point guard, so we'll see how he develops. I doubt he will ever turn into a pure wing, but if he turns out to be a combo guard, it's nice that he's already as tall as an NBA combo (unlike, say, Lyons or even Tu).

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-See Michael Carter-Williams

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In the meantime, Sumner can travel with the team, practice and even dress for games. If his waiver is approved (likely at the season's end), he will retain all four years of eligibility.

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For some reason I find this part of the article confusing. What's the point of dressing for a game if you aren't going to play, or even hope to play because doing so would say you are OK enough, and don't need to be redshirted.

What's more confusing is that they have to wait until the end of the year for the redshirt approval. If he was better in February, you wouldn't know whether you could use him if needed. If you didn't, and they didn't grant it, you'd have lost a full year of his eligibility, and maybe his services at a critical juncture in the conference play.

NB: I may be just too confused to understand this process.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

For some reason I find this part of the article confusing. What's the point of dressing for a game if you aren't going to play, or even hope to play because doing so would say you are OK enough, and don't need to be redshirted.

What's more confusing is that they have to wait until the end of the year for the redshirt approval. If he was better in February, you wouldn't know whether you could use him if needed. If you didn't, and they didn't grant it, you'd have lost a full year of his eligibility, and maybe his services at a critical juncture in the conference play.

NB: I may be just too confused to understand this process.

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It's pretty much a forgone conclusion that he will get his medical redshirt.

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Originally Posted by More Cowbell

-See Michael Carter-Williams

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See also, for those old enough, Bobby Wilkerson of Indiana's 1976 undefeated team. He was the starting off guard (they didn't call them 1 & 2 back then). He was 6'7" and jumped center for IU that year. Great athlete. Reminds me of Sumner. Here is a you tube clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq9lWBiVZIk

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Originally Posted by xutag77

My son went through the same type of growth spurt in High School. As as freshman he was 5'4" as a senior he was 6'2". Very painful as his tendons and knees would hurt as they would were not growing as the same rate as his bones.

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"Growing pains" are real, not just an expression. My brother-in-law grew something crazy - like 6 inches - one year in high school. He grew so fast his femur grew away from his hip socket. They had to put long screws through his hips and into legs to draw them back together. That is horrible and will get a high school kid bedridden then into a wheel chair for a month or two. Not at all surprised Sumner can have some really sore knees. Hope he gets well soon and uses the time to hit the weights.