Covid-19

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Originally Posted by XU_Lou

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) website disclosed the shockingly small number of people who died from only the Wuhan coronavirus, with no other cause of death mentioned. Hold on to your hat because here it is: out of the 161,392 deaths in the CDC data, just six percent, about 9,700 deaths, were attributed to the coronavirus alone. According to the CDC, the other 94 percent had an average of 2.6 additional conditions or causes of deaths, such as heart disease, diabetes, and sepsis."

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronso...virus-n2575306

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Astonishing the leaders of this country would wreck the economy, people's livelihoods, mental health, etc. because of this virus, but they sure did, and continue to do do.

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Originally Posted by X Factor

Astonishing the leaders of this country would wreck the economy, people's livelihoods, mental health, etc. because of this virus, but they sure did, and continue to do do.

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Just incredible..............and don't hold your breath waiting for the drive-by media to report this.

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Originally Posted by X Factor

Astonishing the leaders of this country would wreck the economy, people's livelihoods, mental health, etc. because of this virus, but they sure did, and continue to do do.

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How bizarre that you, and our "dear leader", make such a claim. It's false (see link:https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/30/polit...ump/index.html ), and Trump's retweets on this have been taken down.

Under this line of reasoning, the true covid death rate is 0 because we all are going to die eventually anyway so the fact that covid merely hastens us to death doesn't mean it "caused" the death.

You, Murray87, and XU_Lou need to back away from all the QAnon conspiracy garbage.

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Originally Posted by X-man

How bizarre that you, and our "dear leader", make such a claim. It's false (see link:https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/30/polit...ump/index.html ), and Trump's retweets on this have been taken down.

Under this line of reasoning, the true covid death rate is 0 because we all are going to die eventually anyway so the fact that covid merely hastens us to death doesn't mean it "caused" the death.

You, Murray87, and XU_Lou need to back away from all the QAnon conspiracy garbage.

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Teue..I think what this does say though is that if you are a healthy individual and you get covid, chances are extremely strong that you will be fine...if you are not healthy, chances are you are going to be in trouble if you get covid. Based off of that, I think the country really effed up in the way they handled this disease and I'm not blaming one side or the other...blaming everyone involved

The new task force advisor is recommending the herd immunity route.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...392_story.html

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Originally Posted by Xville

Teue..I think what this does say though is that if you are a healthy individual and you get covid, chances are extremely strong that you will be fine...if you are not healthy, chances are you are going to be in trouble if you get covid. Based off of that, I think the country really effed up in the way they handled this disease and I'm not blaming one side or the other...blaming everyone involved

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I agree with this statement. But keep in mind how little we knew in the beginning about covid's lethality. In the face of that ignorance, the lockdown made total sense IMHO, and I totally supported Gov. DeWine's actions here in Ohio. As we learn more, it makes sense to reopen, as we are doing. But also keep in mind that there is still a lot we don't know about covid's long-term effects. And so I believe that it still makes sense to proceed slowly with reopening. And if the economic recovery is as fast as Trump says it will be, then the economic costs of shutting down and gradually reopening will be less than everyone has feared.

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Originally Posted by X-man

I agree with this statement. But keep in mind how little we knew in the beginning about covid's lethality. In the face of that ignorance, the lockdown made total sense IMHO, and I totally supported Gov. DeWine's actions here in Ohio. As we learn more, it makes sense to reopen, as we are doing. But also keep in mind that there is still a lot we don't know about covid's long-term effects. And so I believe that it still makes sense to proceed slowly with reopening. And if the economic recovery is as fast as Trump says it will be, then the economic costs of shutting down and gradually reopening will be less than everyone has feared.

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True. I completely disagree with trump on this though...the economic recovery is going to be slow ( just in louisville 300 small businesses have closed since march, of course not all covid related but still) and the mental and emotional damage that this has done is ever increasing in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by X-man

I agree with this statement. But keep in mind how little we knew in the beginning about covid's lethality. In the face of that ignorance, the lockdown made total sense IMHO, and I totally supported Gov. DeWine's actions here in Ohio. As we learn more, it makes sense to reopen, as we are doing. But also keep in mind that there is still a lot we don't know about covid's long-term effects. And so I believe that it still makes sense to proceed slowly with reopening. And if the economic recovery is as fast as Trump says it will be, then the economic costs of shutting down and gradually reopening will be less than everyone has feared.

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It's not just the economy. Look at how suicide rates have skyrocketed ever since the lockdowns began. Cancer screenings are way down over the same period which means people are going to get diagnosed at later stages of cancer. Sexual abuse cases in the home are up. But on the economy, lockdowns have destroyed countless numbers of small businesses, and ruined a lot of lives.

This is the first pandemic where the healthy have been quarantined. It makes no sense to lock down healthy individuals. Yes, quarantine the sick. Quarantine the elderly. But why quarantine healthy people?

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Originally Posted by X Factor

It's not just the economy. Look at how suicide rates have skyrocketed ever since the lockdowns began. Cancer screenings are way down over the same period which means people are going to get diagnosed at later stages of cancer. Sexual abuse cases in the home are up. But on the economy, lockdowns have destroyed countless numbers of small businesses, and ruined a lot of lives.

This is the first pandemic where the healthy have been quarantined. It makes no sense to lock down healthy individuals. Yes, quarantine the sick. Quarantine the elderly. But why quarantine healthy people?

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Sadly, because of the botched testing in this country, we have very little idea as to who is healthy and who is sick.

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Originally Posted by X Factor

It's not just the economy. Look at how suicide rates have skyrocketed ever since the lockdowns began. Cancer screenings are way down over the same period which means people are going to get diagnosed at later stages of cancer. Sexual abuse cases in the home are up. But on the economy, lockdowns have destroyed countless numbers of small businesses, and ruined a lot of lives.

This is the first pandemic where the healthy have been quarantined. It makes no sense to lock down healthy individuals. Yes, quarantine the sick. Quarantine the elderly. But why quarantine healthy people?

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But wait...people were going to die anyway. So the lockdown didn't cause these problems!