Politics Thread

I have a deal. The Government can keep my $5000 in exchange for politicians in prison.

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Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton

I’ve suspected you get off arguing with everyone for any reason no matter how baseless. Now I know it to be true.

Go watch the piece and then come back and delete your posts and apologize for being a clown.

If you watch it and still think any part of that belongs in the US, you need to move to Germany and see how it works for you.

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Not really, just those that blame the issues of this country all on one side of the aisle on either side. It's in abundance on this thread.

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Originally Posted by Xville

Not really, just those that blame the issues of this country all on one side of the aisle on either side. It's in abundance on this thread.

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Maybe you should read the room...

MID nailed it. Then you come back with one of your patented non-sequiturs....

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Originally Posted by XU_Lou

Maybe you should read the room...

MID nailed it. Then you come back with one of your patented non-sequiturs....

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So weird you would agree with him. Last thing, your opinion doesn't matter to me.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Pence took to X on Wednesday to write, “Mr. President, Ukraine did not ‘start’ this war.”
He added Russia “launched an unprovoked and brutal invasion claiming hundreds of thousands of lives. The Road to Peace must be built on the Truth.”
His message ran with a link to Fox News article from 2022 that's headlined, "Russia invades Ukraine in largest European attack since WWII."

Someone want to tell Mike Pence that invasion and start are not the same thing?

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I would, but it seems like he already knows that, because he calls it an "unprovoked" invasion. If there was provocation, that would perhaps have been the "start".

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Originally Posted by Xville

Protecting free speech is one thing, what you described with nazi marches and the Baptist church to me is another.

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If you're not protecting speech you hate, you're not protecting free speech.

I guess Paul needs a gun and a ticket.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

I would, but it seems like he already knows that, because he calls it an "unprovoked" invasion. If there was provocation, that would perhaps have been the "start".

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If there is no provocation, and you invade...I would think you started it.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

If there is no provocation, and you invade...I would think you started it.

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Seems right to me. If that's the case.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

If you're not protecting speech you hate, you're not protecting free speech.

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I can see that side of it, I can. And to Brew's point who decides what is hate speech and what isn't which is a slippery slope. However, are there not universal things that sane people would deem as hate speech where a line can be drawn? I'm talking about instances like the examples you gave earlier.