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Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton

Did ever occur to you that you should think, period? First, 20% (otherwise known as 1/5) is indeed a fraction.

Getting past that gem, I'll ask you, if Florida can count over 10 million and 99% of their ballots on election night, why does it take weeks for these other crooked states? And I didn't evade your other point, I ignored it because it's irrelevant. I have no idea why R's block processing ballots before election day. But why does it matter? It shouldn't (and I'll confidently say doesn't) take weeks to count a fraction of the ballots unless you're committing fraud.

Paul you never answered my original question: do you agree or disagree that forensic audits and harsh punishment for fraud would eliminate fraud? And the small cost of this relative to the value of maintaining the sanctity of our election process is well worthwhile?

If you agree, I'll remove you from my Voter Fraud Supporter list.

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Nice deflection. Yes, 20% is 1/5th, a fraction. Your usage implied minimal, not 20%.
I have no need to answer your weird questions. Do you still beat your wife?
Voter fraud is a crime. It's punished. A lot of people caught seem to be R's.
The amount of voter fraud has never shown to be anything more than minuscule compared to the total votes, and never decisive.
See 60 court cases for explanation, or million dollar payouts for claiming fraud that doesn't exist.

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Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton

If proven in the court of law that he engaged in sex with a minor, then he should hold no office ever again, and be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

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If it's proven in a court of law that you are a sexual assaulter, should that person hold the office of president?

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Originally Posted by paulxu

If it's proven in a court of law that you are a sexual assaulter, should that person hold the office of president?

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63 days baby!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoQKnEaaE6Q

One thing I’d love to see about the election is how many people voted down ballot and skipped voting for president. Ideally, it would also say if the rest of the votes were straight party line. Did more democrats or republicans not vote for their party’s candidate?


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Originally Posted by bjf123

One thing I’d love to see about the election is how many people voted down ballot and skipped voting for president. Ideally, it would also say if the rest of the votes were straight party line. Did more democrats or republicans not vote for their party’s candidate?


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I agree, I'd love to see a breakdown of that, but not sure we will ever have that info. Anecdotally, I have read where a lot of people on the left voted straight party, but then didn't vote for Kamala. I can see that, she was a horrible candidate. I truly believe that the dems completely effed this up. Had they just left Biden alone or nominated Shapiro or Beshear, they win going away.

I'm just one person, but my vote certainly would have been different.

There's no way Biden would have won. Not after that debate.

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Originally Posted by Xville

I agree, I'd love to see a breakdown of that, but not sure we will ever have that info. Anecdotally, I have read where a lot of people on the left voted straight party, but then didn't vote for Kamala. I can see that, she was a horrible candidate. I truly believe that the dems completely effed this up. Had they just left Biden alone or nominated Shapiro or Beshear, they win going away.

I'm just one person, but my vote certainly would have been different.

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Ya, I am one who did not vote for either candidate. I wasnÂ’t impressed with Biden presidency and to nominate his assistant wasnÂ’t a smart choice other than to cater to the donors. Not sure if the Dems are enamored with getting a female president but Hillary and Kamala were two really bad options. We have also had 4 years of Trump which wasnÂ’t that great either. Dude is a felon who the Republican Party should have canned after January 6th and how his actions threatened members of congress and Mike Pence. Two terrible candidates who were both not worth voting for.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

There's no way Biden would have won. Not after that debate.

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Agree, A vote for Biden would have been a vote for Harris. People could see right thru that

Lutnick ended up with Commerce, so presumably this means Bessent will get Treasury after all.

Also, looks like Trump's sentencing will be delayed until 2029 in New York, so he's got that to look forward to when his term ends.