Covid-19

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Originally Posted by X-man

WTF??? Is the word of our leading disease experts not "scientific basis"? Or alternatively, what about the experience of countries that did/do use such protocols (every other major country except us) vs. the US (the only major country where lots of people, and in some cases their elected officials, decide that the science is inconvenient, and they don't want "the man" telling them what to do)?

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I think you missed the point of my post. Go back and ready that and I think you'll calm down.

But to the point of your post... trust but verify. Xavier taught some great critical thinking skills that need to be used - especially in this age of misinformation. Blindly following anything is a bad idea.

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Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton

I think you missed the point of my post. Go back and ready that and I think you'll calm down.

But to the point of your post... trust but verify. Xavier taught some great critical thinking skills that need to be used - especially in this age of misinformation. Blindly following anything is a bad idea.

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I appreciate your comment. My reply was more directed to people who still don't understand the basis for requiring masks.

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Originally Posted by X-man

Are you saying that there are way more cases in those other countries than are being reported, because they aren't testing? If so, there should be higher hospitalization rates in those countries, which isn't happening. If you are saying that less testing means fewer cases, i.e. more testing means that more people are sick (rather than just being found as sick), then we have nothing to talk about because I can't reason with such "magical thinking".

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More positive cases does not equal an increased hospitalization rate.

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Originally Posted by Xville

More positive cases does not equal an increased hospitalization rate.

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Tell that to the people in Texas, Florida, and Arizona.

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Originally Posted by X-man

I appreciate your comment. My reply was more directed to people who still don't understand the basis for requiring masks.

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Here is some evidence that masks don't work:

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/sta...507775488?s=20

https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/...1-eng.pdf?ua=1 (Page 21-26)

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Originally Posted by X-man

Tell that to the people in Texas, Florida, and Arizona.

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Tell me about their death rates.
3 of the lowest states in the country when you look at Deaths per million.
New York and New Jersey and Michigan and Massachusetts and Rhode Island? All run by Democrats?
Uhhhhhh........

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Originally Posted by Juice

Here is some evidence that masks don't work:

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/sta...507775488?s=20

https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/...1-eng.pdf?ua=1 (Page 21-26)

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And that masks do work: http://files.fast.ai/papers/masks_lit_review.pdf

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

Tell me about their death rates.
3 of the lowest states in the country when you look at Deaths per million.
New York and New Jersey and Michigan and Massachusetts and Rhode Island? All run by Democrats?
Uhhhhhh........

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Uhhhh, the issue in question was hospitalizations.

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Originally Posted by Juice

Here is some evidence that masks don't work:

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/sta...507775488?s=20

https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/...1-eng.pdf?ua=1 (Page 21-26)

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This article pertains to mask effectiveness against the spread of influenza (flu) viruses, not coronaviruses. The flu is capable of spreading through aerosols (extremely small particles emitted that can pass through a mask), so no, masks don't help. Coronavirus seems to have limited or no aerosol transmission - it primarily spread by droplets emitted form the nose/mouth (larger particles). Masks stop droplets, and therefore, mitigate spread of COVID-19.

Wear the mask please.

Testing at different rates can twist the picture in too many ways. I’ll follow deaths, and hope they don’t start rising again after the current spike in positive cases.


Oh, and I’ll gladly wear a mask in stores while avoiding crowded places.