Politics Thread

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Originally Posted by ChicagoX

By doing away with abortion rights, you are giving the fetus more rights than the woman carrying it.

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You're really not unless it's okay to kill women. And shame on you for wanting to allow all those girl fetuses to be killed. Very misogynistic.

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Originally Posted by ChicagoX

By doing away with abortion rights, you are giving the fetus more rights than the woman carrying it. Only a bunch of religiously brainwashed old men could impose these type of regressive laws on women. Religious fundamentalism has no place in a free society.

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And what do you call the women who are anti-abortion?

Seriously, make an argument. Just personally attacking people and calling them stupid if they don't agree with you is not a good argument.

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Originally Posted by XU 87

It doesn't matter what year it is. The Constitution either says or it doesn't. If the Constitution doesn't address an issue, then that issue is left to the voters or their elected representatives to decide. That's the way our system of government is supposed to work. Because abortion is not addressed in the Constitution, it should be decided by the voters, not by 5 judges.

Your argument above about "who has more rights" is not a Constitutionally based legal argument.

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The fact that we actually have to have a conversation as to whether a woman has more rights than her fetus goes to show how much religious fundamentalism has slowed social progress.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

You're really not unless it's okay to kill women. And shame on you for wanting to allow all those girl fetuses to be killed. Very misogynistic.

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Oh, for f*ck's sake, I don't want all of the fetuses to be killed, I just don't think it's my business or anyone else's for that matter.

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Originally Posted by ChicagoX

Oh, for f*ck's sake, I don't want all of the fetuses to be killed, I just don't think it's my business or anyone else's for that matter.

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I didn't say you wanted them to be killed. Just that you want them to be allowed to be killed. And we simply disagree on whose business it is.

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Originally Posted by XU 87

And what do you call the women who are anti-abortion?

Seriously, make an argument. Just personally attacking people and calling them stupid if they don't agree with you is not a good argument.

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Where did I call anyone stupid? I think I've made valid arguments that not giving fetuses more rights than the woman carrying them is a pretty sound argument. Seriously, how does abortion have a negative affect on your life? You wish to impose laws on women you don't know and force them to go through with a pregnancy they don't want. What kind of medieval, religious crap is that?

But the fetuses aren't getting more rights. And infanticide and cruelty to animals don't affect me, either, but I still want those to be illegal.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

But the fetuses aren't getting more rights. And infanticide and cruelty to animals don't affect me, either, but I still want those to be illegal.

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By forcing a woman to go through with an unwanted pregnancy, you are absolutely giving the fetus more rights by denying the woman the right to make her own choices about a pregnancy happening in her own body. This type of religious fundamentalism is a pox on humanity.

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Originally Posted by X-man

On what basis do you make this claim? Most objective analysts would argue that if anything, the Republicans prevented the Obama administration from doing what would have sped up the recovery when they limited his fiscal policy options in the name of deficit control

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As for your use of the words "objective analysts"- HAHAHAHA. I think you meant to use the words "liberal analysts".

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Originally Posted by ChicagoX

By forcing a woman to go through with an unwanted pregnancy, you are absolutely giving the fetus more rights by denying the woman the right to make her own choices about a pregnancy happening in her own body.

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You keep saying this. Doesn't make it more true, thougn.