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Originally Posted by paulxu

You have one guy who used facts, but had a shitty presentation night, apparently compounded by a cold and stuttering from childhood.

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I don't think you believe this.

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Originally Posted by xuphan

Are you trying to tell us that Biden didn’t lie on stage last night? Because the border patrol endorsement he said he got wasn’t true at all. There were several other lies as well. It is ok to admit that both candidates aren’t fit to be the next president. Instead of solely attacking Trump maybe take the approach that they both are not good for the country moving forward. Demand better from both parties.

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I didn’t get to see the debate, but did see a couple of reports this morning that Trump lied 30 times and Biden lied 9 times. No clue of that’s accurate. EVERY political candidate lies and avoids answering questions unless it’s one the like.

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Originally Posted by XU_Lou

I think we can all celebrate the FACT that the Democrats have finally defeated Medicare. And damn, what fight it was. But the victory was glorious!

Hey Paul, did you earn any medals during that battle?

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I need some context as to what Biden might have meant about defeating Medicare. I saw that cut this morning, but that’s all it was.


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Originally Posted by bjf123

I didn’t get to see the debate, but did see a couple of reports this morning that Trump lied 30 times and Biden lied 9 times. No clue of that’s accurate. EVERY political candidate lies and avoids answering questions unless it’s one the like.



I need some context as to what Biden might have meant about defeating Medicare. I saw that cut this morning, but that’s all it was.


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It came out of nowhere - at the end of an incoherent answer to some question I have no idea of anymore.

Trump kept saying something bizarre about all legal scholars wanting abortion to go back to the states. Biden's abortion answers were equally incoherent, but I couldn't figure out if Trump was actually trying to say that all legal scholars wanted Roe v. Wade overturned. Now, if what he MEANT to say was that all legal scholars within the Federalist Society wanted Roe v. Wade overturned, then I think he was on to something there.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

Trump kept saying something bizarre about all legal scholars wanting abortion to go back to the states. Biden's abortion answers were equally incoherent, but I couldn't figure out if Trump was actually trying to say that all legal scholars wanted Roe v. Wade overturned. Now, if what he MEANT to say was that all legal scholars within the Federalist Society wanted Roe v. Wade overturned, then I think he was on to something there.

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RBG agreed as well that it was bad law. Maybe he was including her as well?

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

RBG agreed as well that it was bad law. Maybe he was including her as well?

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That was a major miss on Trump's part - it was a fat pitch down the middle that he should hammered home.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

This sums it up pretty well:

https://heathercoxrichardson.substac...m_medium=email

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Huh.
Obviously you did not see the Daniel Dale factcheck on Biden. Lies at every answer.
“The Border Patrol endorsed me”. lol
Within minutes the Border Patrol issued a flat denial.

Get ready for the drafting of Michelle Obama for the nomination
That way Barack can emerge from the shadow Presidency he’s been operating behind the Mummy Biden.

https://open.substack.com/pub/bariwe...utm_medium=ios

Watched Biden's speech earlier. The old kook doesn't know he lost the election last night. Dems only chance is to recruit Moochelle, but many say she doesn't want it.

But the winning continues today for Trump and freedom-loving Americans. Chevron case was a major blow to Dems authoritarianism. And then, Turley had this to say:

Jonathan Turley
@JonathanTurley
...A major loss for the Biden Administration. The Court rules that the "novel interpretation would criminalize a broad swath of prosaic conduct, exposing activists and lobbyists alike to decades in prison."

Jonathan Turley
@JonathanTurley
...This is a big win for Trump as well. It knocks out a substantial part of the case of Jack Smith against the former president. It also knocks out hundreds of convictions...

Jonathan Turley
@JonathanTurley
...Obviously, there were other charges like trespass that will not be impacted. However, this hits hundreds of cases. Those cases must now be reviewed on just on the underlying convictions but sentencing in many cases. It will not impact those cases which only went forward on trespass which are also numbers in the hundreds...


Jonathan Turley
@JonathanTurley
....For Trump, this rips the wings of the plane that Jack Smith has been trying to take off in D.C. In an ordinary case, there would be a superseding indictment. Smith may try to go forward on the remaining counts. However, it is hard to see how the indictment holds together after this decision...


The Florida case ain't happening either (and yes, Julie Kelly has been spot on all along). Sorry about your luck, Libs....

https://thelibertydaily.com/supreme-...ucracys-power/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...esident-trump/

https://x.com/JonathanTurley/status/...ident-trump%2F