Politics Thread

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Originally Posted by paulxu

So if Biden stumbles in a debate, but does a good job as a president, the Dems should replace him?

But..if Trump is a convicted felon, adjudged sexual abuser, fake university and charity head, guilty of financial fraud, under indictment for inciting an insurrection, under indictment for stealing government secrets, etc., the Repubs should keep him?

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Biden does a good job as President? Now that’s funny!

Trump is a convicted felon on a bogus case that will ultimately be overturned. I don’t know enough about Trump University or your charity allegations to comment. The financial fraud cases is another BS hit job. We’ll see what happens on the others.

Do I wish the Republicans would run just about anyone else? Absolutely! Will you say the same about Biden? He’s clearly having cognitive issues. Wonder what medication they’ll have him on for the debate tonight? Probably whatever he took before the State of the Union speech.


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Originally Posted by Xville

It’s a little be careful what you wish for moment for me. What if it’s Gavin or Kamala? I’ll deal with grandpa over those two

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You could very well see Kamala be the president if Biden wins the election. I just don’t see him lasting another 4 years in office.

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Originally Posted by bjf123

I don’t know enough about Trump University or your charity allegations to comment.

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Let me help you out:

He ran a fraudulent university which scammed suckers out of millions, which he paid back some of;

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"Judge Curiel's order finalizing the $25 million Trump University settlement means that victims of Donald Trump's fraudulent university will finally receive the relief they deserve,"

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-fina...ry?id=54347237

He ran a fraudulent charity that scammed suckers out of millions which he used personally, and paid back some:

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Not only has the Trump Foundation shut down for its misconduct, but the president has been forced to pay $2 million for misusing charitable funds for his own political gain.

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https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2019...ump-foundation

Hope that helps.

I dunno why it is so hard for some to admit that both options are complete trash. Why bother arguing over which trash is worse?

You’d think by now everyone would be in agreement with country or candidate over party.

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Originally Posted by Xville

I dunno why it is so hard for some to admit that both options are complete trash. Why bother arguing over which trash is worse?

You’d think by now everyone would be in agreement with country or candidate over party.

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Your trash smells WAAAAAAY worse than our trash

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Hope that helps.

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Thought thats was what happened. I stand by my position that I wish the Republican candidate would be someone else. Since they won’t, I’ll hold my nose and vote for Trump. Do you think them Dems should run someone else, or do you honestly think Biden deserves another 4 years?

Sadly both sides put party over country.


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I would have loved it if the Democrats had spent the last 4 years developing some good candidates to run for president, especially people with experience.
Not happy they didn't.
But realistically it's almost impossible to deny the built-in advantage the incumbent enjoys.Generally they get re-elected (Clinton, Bush 2, Obama).

On balance I want the experience Biden brings, the results of bringing us out of the pandemic and reduction of the deficit for our grandchildren, over the threat I believe Trump would be for our democracy.

Given that Biden is currently a pretty substantial underdog to Trump, I would think someone who is going to vote blue no matter who would welcome a chance to kick Biden to the curb here.

We're both in states that Trump is going to win bigly, so our votes don't matter, but yes I'd love it if there was a possibility of moving Trump aside for Haley or Scott or DeSantis or one of 20 other superior candidates (you don't have to like any of those names; I set the bar on the floor with the qualifier of superior to Trump). But there was an acual contested primary on the Republican side. It's clear Trump owns the Republican Party (for better or for...no, just for worse). Biden has no such sway over the Democratic establishment. Quite the opposite. He's being propped up by them. If Obama says the word, there is zero doubt Biden is out. They could send a Clinton (pick one, any one) out with Obama to convey the same message if they feel the need to put a cherry on top of it.

What happens if Biden gets the one electoral vote in Omaha to push him to 270 ? Mayhem?

Nevermind, I forgot it is by state and not by Senator. And you were asking about a different scenario than I thought you were!

Riot in Omaha!