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Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun

I can see your theory being true... but you think Harley Davidson’s target audience are those that don’t support Trump? Admittedly I don’t know a ton of bikers but I know some, and blaming Trump typically wouldn’t go over well with them.

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Calculated risk. US sales are flat. The brand is very strong with those who are “HD” people. It’s not like these bikers are going to buy a Honda or BMW. Very different personas for those bikes. Trump bikers may wince at the statement but they’re still buying a Harley made in WI with their next purchase.

Huge opportunity for a startup US heavy bike brand. Albeit the barriers to enter that market are high. Another reason why the CEO isn’t worried about offending US buyers.

You can buy an Indian MC. I had a donor cycle for 3 yrs. at X. Hated it and couldn't wait to get my first job and buy a sports car. I think these overseas production facilities will proliferate. Who can afford to lose that kind of money on stupid taxes (tariffs).

North Korea Rapidly Upgrading Nuclear Reactor Despite Summit - WSJ

CBS News - National debt at highest level since after WWII

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Originally Posted by ChicagoX

CBS News - National debt at highest level since after WWII

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Interesting article. Is Rand Paul the last fiscal conservative left? Like him or not, he is principled.

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Originally Posted by boozehound

Interesting article. Is Rand Paul the last fiscal conservative left? Like him or not, he is principled.

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Most Republicans are only fiscally conservative when a Democrat is president. Anytime a Republican is president, taxes are slashed, spending is increased, and the debt and deficit explode. You won't find a reputable economist who says that slashing taxes during times of economic prosperity is good policy.

The corporate tax slashing was long overdue. Our corporate tax rates were silly and uncompetitive. The tax changes related to individuals were welcome to me personally, but I think they were unnecessary.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

The corporate tax slashing was long overdue. Our corporate tax rates were silly and uncompetitive. The tax changes related to individuals were welcome to me personally, but I think they were unnecessary.

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I agree with you for the most part, although I think the corporate tax could have gone to 28% like Obama proposed instead of the 21% that was passed last year. Most of the tax breaks have gone to stock buybacks, dividend increases and business investments, and very little of it has been used to increase salaries, give employee bonuses or hire more workers.

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Originally Posted by boozehound

Interesting article. Is Rand Paul the last fiscal conservative left? Like him or not, he is principled.

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Yep, time to drastically cut spending. Trump was already warned House members he’ll veto the budget if it looks like the last one.

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Originally Posted by ChicagoX

Most Republicans are only fiscally conservative when a Democrat is president. Anytime a Republican is president, taxes are slashed, spending is increased, and the debt and deficit explode. You won't find a reputable economist who says that slashing taxes during times of economic prosperity is good policy.

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And of course the real irony here is that when Obama was President and proposing deficit increasing programs, the economy was in serious recession and therefore a coherent case could be made for such deficits. With the economy largely recovered, as it was last year when Republicans both cut taxes and increased spending, increased deficits make no sense.