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Originally Posted by Xville

Illegals can't get medicaid unless its absolutely an emergency situation, which as described in that article is only in completely dire straits. and no insurance?...again, they risk deportation. Why would they go to the hospital, doctor for that risk?

500 billion, really? Come on man. Think about that for a second and just use some common sense, and know that's absurd. It's not nothing, I'm not ignorant to believe that, it does cost a significant amount of money, and it's something that does need to be fixed.

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What are you talking about. These illegals are provided all the FREE necessary essentials to get to their preferred location. They are instructed to go immediately to the local Social Services office, where they received ALL of the FREE services available. Obviously that includes Healthcare options.

Are you really suggesting that O'Biden intentionally allowed 10 million illegals enter, but will deport them if they show up at an Emergency room? That notion is literally comical.

500 Billion IS absurd. Exactly my point. Compare your math to these guys.

https://nypost.com/2023/11/13/news/h...igrant-crisis/

Found that info with one click. Why didn't you?

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Originally Posted by Xuperman

What are you talking about. These illegals are provided all the FREE necessary essentials to get to their preferred location. They are instructed to go immediately to the local Social Services office, where they received ALL of the FREE services available. Obviously that includes Healthcare options.

Are you really suggesting that O'Biden intentionally allowed 10 million illegals enter, but will deport them if they show up at an Emergency room? That notion is literally comical.

500 Billion IS absurd. Exactly my point. Compare your math to these guys.

https://nypost.com/2023/11/13/news/h...igrant-crisis/

Found that info with one click. Why didn't you?

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Again my man. I said digest the other side a bit. Yeah of course a house gop study says that.


In terms of deportation, read the articles. It happens. You say a lot of things that are trump talking points that have little basis in reality. As I stated earlier, you may want to digest things from both sides and draw your own conclusions, rather than just repeating trump style talking points.

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Originally Posted by STL_XUfan

I am on an individual exchange plan. Has generally been pretty great. Every November I go to the portal where I am able to compare all of the plans side by side and pick the one that works best for me. Makes shopping for health insurance really easy.

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How much do you make a year?

Obviously price isn't a concern for you.

Do you understand the premium costs before and after ACA was implemented?

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Did the Gov’t hand out money to rich people or decide not to extract it from them?

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Hey brew. Are you going to the trump libertarian convention? He'll be talking about bloodbaths and how to terminate the constitution.

For the record, for those of you who don't understand the reality of the economics of the ACA:

In 2014, the last year before being forced onto Obamacare (remember: there was a grace period), my wife and I paid $3326 in premiums.

* (no, we didn't get to keep the plan we liked, nor the doctors we liked, despite Obama's promises)

2015: first year on ACA - premiums more than doubled to $6779.

2024: We are now paying $22,684.

* 2015 thru 2024 we have been on Bronze plans, and nothing else has changed in our personal health. So, these numbers are apples to apples.

So, our premiums have increased 582% since 2014. Inflation, BTW, has only increased by 34% during that same time period, according to the BLS calculator.

Tell me how the ACA is a good thing?

As Reagan famously said, “The nine most terrifying words, I from the government and I’m here to help.” Wonder why health insurance and college costs (to name a few) are going through the roof.

Speaking of insurance, anyone else see a 20% increase in home insurance this year? We are getting financially crushed out here.

Bronze plan cost is $407/month X 12 X 2 people = $9,768 per year for 2 people.

Wonder why your bronze plan is so high?

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Bronze plan cost is $407/month X 12 X 2 people = $9,768 per year for 2 people.

Wonder why your bronze plan is so high?

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It depends on state/county/age - there are a wide range of rates between locales.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Damn, I was sure that Republicans were involved in crafting the Senate bill that Trump ordered his sycophants to kill.

Guess it was all the Dems doing.

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Damn! Sorry that you are pissed that the Republicans refused to give ya boi Biden credit for allegedly “fixing” a problem that he created into a dumpster fire.
The Democrats played that game vs Trump for 4 years. You reap what you sow

Since they crafted a good plan, endorsed by Border Patrol...and then killed it...it seems like cutting off you nose to spite your face.