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Originally Posted by paulxu

It's fascinating how he is "demonized" as an "evil Jewish person". Crazy. The other side gives much more money, but never seems to take on that characterization. Leo got 1.6 billion from Seid, Koch spent 1 billion on the 2020 election cycle alone.

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Here’s why Progressive Bubble Guy.
Soros wants to destroy the American way of Life by force and insurrection and funding candidates that refuse to promote law and order.
Yes. He is evil to America. What religious persuasion he is is irrelevant to his one world goals.
This should deeply disturb all Americans. From the Associated Press:

“Why is it that the traditional definition of marriage was suddenly discarded after years of citizens voting for it to be preserved?

Follow the money.

How are illegal immigrants organized so quickly and young voters corralled overnight to demand open borders? Where did the saturation of transgender and pansexual ideology come from? How is it possible that Black Lives Matter seems to be everywhere? Or that the call for pot legalization is sweeping the nation? Or that there is an international movement for globalization simultaneously occurring in countries around the world?

Follow the money the George Soros money through his Open Society Foundation.

In this long season of cultural and political tension, Americans need to know the truth about the source of the conflicts, about why communities and our nation are being ripped apart. Mr. Soros’ Open Society Foundation also is busy abroad in a well-financed attempt to strip America and other nations of our sovereignty and make us beholden to an international government.

Mr. Soros funds so many of these hateful, disruptive (even violent) efforts here at home and abroad that it’s hard to keep track.”

https://apnews.com/article/entertain...7388e2ea4ec4e5

Exactly MOR - I was just going to post that this isn't about the amount or source of the money, it's about what it's being spent on. The propagandists know this.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Certainly tainted by the activities of the Trump campaign people in meeting with Russian intelligence operatives.

I don't think we'll ever know if it's "illegitimate" as it would not seem possible to measure the voting impact in numbers that the leaks and other coordination might have caused.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...16-us-election

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From your link, which is from 2020 (new information has come to light since, BTW):

"Both men were charged in Mueller’s investigation, but neither was accused of any tie to the hacking."

"They say that while the report shows the Russian government “inappropriately meddled” in the election, “then-candidate Trump was not complicit.” "

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"It says the Trump campaign chairman had regular contact with a Russian intelligence officer and says other Trump associates were eager to exploit the Kremlin’s aid, particularly by maximizing the impact of the disclosure of Democratic emails hacked by Russian intelligence officers."

But we know this is completely false - because there was no hacking of the DNC:

1) The Nation has said so: https://www.thenation.com/article/ar...ears-dnc-hack/

2) CrowdStrike President Shawn Henry stated this to the House Intelligence Committee: "There’s not evidence that they were actually exfiltrated. There's circumstantial evidence but no evidence that they were actually exfiltrated."

"Henry’s recently released testimony does not mean that Russia did not hack the DNC. What it does make clear is that Obama administration officials, the DNC and others have misled the public by presenting as fact information that they knew was uncertain. The fact that the Democratic Party employed the two private firms that generated the core allegations at the heart of Russiagate -- Russian email hacking and Trump-Russia collusion – suggests that the federal investigation was compromised from the start."

https://www.realclearinvestigations....nc_123596.html


About the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence report:

It's still heavily redacted: https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/...rt_volume5.pdf

Chairman Marco Rubio stated:

“We can say, without any hesitation, that the Committee found absolutely no evidence that then-candidate Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government to meddle in the 2016 election.

“What the Committee did find however is very troubling. We found irrefutable evidence of Russian meddling. And we discovered deeply troubling actions taken by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, particularly their acceptance and willingness to rely on the ‘Steele Dossier’ without verifying its methodology or sourcing.

"The Committee found no evidence that anyone associated with the Trump Campaign had any substantive private conversations with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak during the April 27, 2016, Trump speech held at the Mayflower Hotel."

https://www.realclearinvestigations....nc_123596.html

Sources for the dossier have been debunked: https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news...ntil-late-2020

I'm sorry black helicopters didn't make their way into the Soros recap by the Washington Times.

Guy who lived through the holocaust, has given the greater part of his self made fortune to progressive causes, and the right wing nut jobs from O'Reilly on down decide he is "evil." It's like you all live in an alternate universe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George...iracy_theories

He lived through the Holocaust? I wonder how he managed that.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

I'm sorry black helicopters didn't make their way into the Soros recap by the Washington Times.

Guy who lived through the holocaust, has given the greater part of his self made fortune to progressive causes, and the right wing nut jobs from O'Reilly on down decide he is "evil." It's like you all live in an alternate universe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George...iracy_theories

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It was picked up by the Associated Press which, I think (?) is a non partisan news organization?
And Paul pontificates on this, not from San Francisco and LA which are being destroyed by Soros backed policies, but from well run and growing South Carolina which is Republican controlled and where no sane person would ever vote in that iish.
There is nothing inaccurate in the article despite your efforts to besmirch it. Soros’ history is irrelevant. It’s his present that is a disaster.
Get out of your Progressive Bubble & see the real world.

Atlanta Journal-Constitution:
Fulton DA Teases Possible August Charges in Trump Probe

DA Fani Willis has cleared a couple of weeks in the grand jury calendar in early to mid-August; this appears to be the time when the Fulton County grand jury will or will not end up indicting Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, and anyone else involved in the Georgia election probe.

And because this is a state-level probe, whoever is the US President cannot pardon Trump and his cronies for any of the above crimes. That would be under the purview of the Georgia Parole Board.

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Atlanta Journal-Constitution:
Fulton DA Teases Possible August Charges in Trump Probe

DA Fani Willis has cleared a couple of weeks in the grand jury calendar in early to mid-August; this appears to be the time when the Fulton County grand jury will or will not end up indicting Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani, and anyone else involved in the Georgia election probe.

And because this is a state-level probe, whoever is the US President cannot pardon Trump and his cronies for any of the above crimes. That would be under the purview of the Georgia Parole Board.

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Thanks, the lesson: Never kick rickety apple carts…

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Originally Posted by paulxu

I don't think we'll ever know if it's "illegitimate" [/url]

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But the election was certified..there was an investigation and everything. Is this your version of the big lie you've mentioned ad nauseam for years?

But wait Paul..you've said over and over again that questioning the legitimacy of our elections is a threat to Democracy and should not be tolerated. That sure sounds like what you are doing here. It sounds like you're advancing a very scary narrative..

If it wasn't so sad it would be hilarious.