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Originally Posted by Juice

That's deep.

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That concludes this edition of, "you can't say we should limit guns if you don't intricately understand them and are therefore pro-gun."

Thank you. Come again.

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Originally Posted by Juice

You know how this shooting or Dylan Roof could have been avoided? The Air Force could have entered the Texas shooter's DV conviction into the database and the FBI could have responded on the background check of Dylan Roof. Roof was prohibited from buying/owning a firearm because of his prior drug conviction. Rules/Laws are in place that would have prevented these shootings but the federal government f*cked up. Now you want that same federal government to "just do something"?

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Half measures obviously don't work.

There aren't two binary choices. Just because you don't willy nilly go out and "do something" because it feels good, that doesn't mean you have to do nothing.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

There aren't two binary choices. Just because you don't willy nilly go out and "do something" because it feels good, that doesn't mean you have to do nothing.

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This is exactly what I am referring to when I say semantics. This is the binary choice: a) reduce the current number of guns b) don't.

Talking about capacity etc. is a secondary argument. We as a country can't even get past the first one.

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Originally Posted by Caf

This is exactly what I am referring to when I say semantics.

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Then you don't know much about semantics.

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Originally Posted by Caf

That concludes this edition of, "you can't say we should limit guns if you don't intricately understand them and are therefore pro-gun."

Thank you. Come again.

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So you want to ban assault rifles? Tell me why those and not all semi-automatic firearms? Even handguns? Give me something more than they kill people because lots of shit kills people.

And the weapon used by the former NRA instructor to help stop the attack? An AR-15.

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Originally Posted by Juice

So you want to ban assault rifles? Tell me why those and not all semi-automatic firearms? Even handguns? Give me something more than they kill people because lots of shit kills people.

And the weapon used by the former NRA instructor to help stop the attack? An AR-15.

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We're not there yet. This debate is currently on, "should we look to limit the number of guns?" There's no reason to end this discussion because myself or anyone else doesn't know perfectly how this would ideally work.

The Associated Press‏
@AP
BREAKING: Official: Shooter had three gunshot wounds, one self-inflicted to head; two from armed citizen, one leg and one torso.



I'm happy the civilian had an AR-15.

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Originally Posted by Juice

The Associated Press‏
@AP
BREAKING: Official: Shooter had three gunshot wounds, one self-inflicted to head; two from armed citizen, one leg and one torso.



I'm happy the civilian had an AR-15.

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You don’t think the civilian could have used a handgun to the same effect? Is it a coincidence that most of these mass shootings are done with AR-15s?

As someone who hunts I can tell you there is no real good use for an AR-15 in most if not all hunting situations. In fact in the community I hunt in they are frowned upon. I can also imagine it not very useful in home defense. I just don’t see their purpose for civilians.

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Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun

You don’t think the civilian could have used a handgun to the same effect? Is it a coincidence that most of these mass shootings are done with AR-15s?

As someone who hunts I can tell you there is no real good use for an AR-15 in most if not all hunting situations. In fact in the community I hunt in they are frowned upon. I can also imagine it not very useful in home defense. I just don’t see their purpose for civilians.

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In his own words he stated that using a handgun he would not have stopped the shooter.