Covid-19

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

Who thinks NYC did anything right?!?

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Considering that Gov Cuomo now has like a 77% approval rating (and 53% from Republicans)...I think a lot of people must believe that.

Now, if you blame DeBlosi for NYC and not Cuomo...then you might be right Go. I think both are to blame for the issues in NYC.

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Originally Posted by D-West & PO-Z

They found it true the hospitals get paid more, not that they were fraudulently billing or inflating their numbers.

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Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun

Yes and it says this in the article posted literally word for word:

“ There have been no public reports that hospitals are exaggerating COVID-19 numbers to receive higher Medicare payments.

Jensen didn't explicitly make that claim. He simply suggested there is an "avenue" to do so now that "plausible" COVID-19, not just laboratory-confirmed, cases can be greenlighted for Medicare payment and eligible for the 20% add-on allowed under the relief act.”

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And did the word "Fraud" appear anywhere in that post? Uh, no. BUT, do not tell me that if there is a judgement call, which there many times are, as to whether a patient had a case of the normal flu, or another respiratory ailment that the hospital coder didn't use the Covid code as a classification.
Look. I see this happen all the time on the EOB's I receive in the mail. The diagnosis is conveniently changed to something where the provider will be ensured to get paid, or paid more. Be real here.

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Originally Posted by bigdiggins

Roughly equivalent to smoking. And every life is so precious we had to shut down the country, yet we haven't banned smoking.

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Yet state and local government have greatly restricted where that activity can take place. Including not permitting it in bars, restaurants, grocery stores, near the entrances to buildings, etc. to avoid exposing people to it.

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Originally Posted by Lamont Sanford

Considering that Gov Cuomo now has like a 77% approval rating (and 53% from Republicans)...I think a lot of people must believe that.

Now, if you blame DeBlosi for NYC and not Cuomo...then you might be right Go. I think both are to blame for the issues in NYC.

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Well, this may change that.
Cuomo signed the edict forcing nursing homes to accept civic recoverers & now claiming the nursing homes makes the re entry determination.
New York state is reporting more than 1,700 previously undisclosed deaths at nursing homes and adult care facilities, as Cuomo faces scrutiny over protecting vulnerable residents during the coronavirus pandemic. Per NBC breaking news.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...41/ncrd1200311

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

And did the word "Fraud" appear anywhere in that post? Uh, no. BUT, do not tell me that if there is a judgement call, which there many times are, as to whether a patient had a case of the normal flu, or another respiratory ailment that the hospital coder didn't use the Covid code as a classification.
Look. I see this happen all the time on the EOB's I receive in the mail. The diagnosis is conveniently changed to something where the provider will be ensured to get paid, or paid more. Be real here.

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C'mon MOR.....your post was in direct response to someone who was stating that they didnt think hospitals were fraudulently billing for COVID-19.

Do I think that may happen? Possibly. Do I think it is happening to the amount that some people want to think it is that it is artificially bloating the numbers, no. I still think if anything it is under-reported based on things I know and have seen myself.

Unfortunately this whole pandemic stuff is turning our medical community into political talking heads. Watch one show a person says this and flip the station and you hear something completely different.

I know it’s normal political theater for Fox, CNN, and MSNBC (you can name anyone’s favorite paper as well), but really sad to see how it’s been played out when it comes to this disease. Guess whoever said it was right, “everything is politics.”

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Originally Posted by Lamont Sanford

Considering that Gov Cuomo now has like a 77% approval rating (and 53% from Republicans)...I think a lot of people must believe that.

Now, if you blame DeBlosi for NYC and not Cuomo...then you might be right Go. I think both are to blame for the issues in NYC.

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I think it's a bit odd that Cuomo has such a high approval rating. He gives nice press conferences and has witty banter with his brother who likes to go out on walks while positive for COVID and verbally harass bikers, but NYC was a complete dumpster fire. Not sure how anyone can see that and say, "Gee, New Yorkers sure are doing everything right here!".

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

I think it's a bit odd that Cuomo has such a high approval rating. He gives nice press conferences and has witty banter with his brother who likes to go out on walks while positive for COVID and verbally harass bikers, but NYC was a complete dumpster fire. Not sure how anyone can see that and say, "Gee, New Yorkers sure are doing everything right here!".

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That's all it takes for our country to think someone is effective.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

I think it's a bit odd that Cuomo has such a high approval rating. He gives nice press conferences and has witty banter with his brother who likes to go out on walks while positive for COVID and verbally harass bikers, but NYC was a complete dumpster fire. Not sure how anyone can see that and say, "Gee, New Yorkers sure are doing everything right here!".

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Totally agreed Go. Keep in mind that Cuomo is the new MSM media darling and most Dems hope that Dementia Joe's past sexual assault issues will derail his bid for President so they can go with Cuomo (and Michelle O) as their ticket come November to defeat the Trumpster.

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Originally Posted by D-West & PO-Z

C'mon MOR.....your post was in direct response to someone who was stating that they didnt think hospitals were fraudulently billing for COVID-19.

Do I think that may happen? Possibly. Do I think it is happening to the amount that some people want to think it is that it is artificially bloating the numbers, no. I still think if anything it is under-reported based on things I know and have seen myself.

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C'mon DWest. No one ever said fraud. But do you believe that the data isn't being skewed toward Covid data entering? It absolutely is. It's not fraud, but it's certainly taking the gray area to your side...and for the money. it's no different than when you have a 50/50 item that may or may not be deductible on your Tax Return. Are you not going to put it on there if there is a question? Of course you are. That is human, and business natute. Don't deny it. And where the hell is the evidence that cases are being underreported? Wouldn't it seem that there would be pressure to overreport to justify the faulty models that have been put out there?
As always, follow the money. And the hospitals have to in every case because the of wrong headed move - Based upon faulty modeling- by the Governor to stop non-essential procedures that bring in cash.