Nope, need to stop the Fascists and their mandates. You can still obey though Bobbie.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
Oh, and Fauci lied to Congress and has 0 credibility and the integrity of Bob Huggins.
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Nope, need to stop the Fascists and their mandates. You can still obey though Bobbie.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
Oh, and Fauci lied to Congress and has 0 credibility and the integrity of Bob Huggins.
Yeah, half the schools are fascists. Got it.
Just the folks forcing people to run around in facerchiefs.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
Well Ron's mandate has been universally ignored anyway, and will continue to be ignored either way. Who cares if he cuts off the School Supt.'s pay.
https://www.politico.com/states/flor...icials-1389870
Ron’s mandate. You’re adorable. Maybe time then for FL to introduce vouchers for private and religious schools.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
https://www.politico.com/states/flor...icials-1389870
What's funny about this is my sis in Orlando sez every private school there requires masks.
Wow, 135 private schools in Orland and she surveyed all of them. She is one dedicated woman!Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
She probably also said she saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night....:)Quote:
Originally Posted by principal
Well, hate to tell you but the CDC changed the definition of a vaccine so Dr. Alex is somewhat vindicated…Quote:
Originally Posted by Xville
Fucking trash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Or perhaps they changed the wording because people have trouble with reading comprehension. I had to do a Twitter search to see what this even was in reference to and it’s pretty laughable. Would like to hear why you think this is a big deal…Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
He's a MD now? He writes fiction, especially on Covid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
So does the CDC these days....Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
Biden and many pundits continue to tell us that this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. This is simply not true. Let's look at Massachusetts, the only state that I'm aware of that reports break-thru case data - that is, people who have contracted Covid after being fully vaccinated. In the past week 37% of all cases, 26.6% of all hospitalizations and 29% of all Covid deaths were among those that are fully vaccinated. Those numbers have been drifting higher over the last several weeks:
https://www.mass.gov/info-details/co...onse-reporting
In the United Kingdom, 67% of all deaths are among fully vaccinated people between Feb and August. The UK is well ahead of the US in terms of vaccination rates and dates. To date, 89% of the people over age 16 in the UK have received at least 1 jab, while 80% are fully vaccinated:
https://assets.publishing.service.go...2_21_09_02.pdf
Having to change the definition of vaccine is a huge fail.
I guess it's a good thing for the medical field that people will continue to get sick.....
We have 53% of the population vaccinated, vs 0% a year ago.
CDC estimates 80% of the population has artifice or natural immunity, vs. <10% a year ago.
Yet cases and hospitalizations are substantially higher than last year.
Explanations anyone?
Delta variant is more transmissible (though not more deadly).
If I were a cynic, I would say that Biden and team waited until new cases peaked (which they did Sepember 2 on the 7 day average) before they made their big announcement. Thus, they can be virtually assured cases will go down right away, and they can claim credit.
We're #1 !Quote:
South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster (R), whose state has reached record-breaking levels of COVID-19, tweeted “Rest assured, we will fight them to the gates of hell to protect the liberty and livelihood of every South Carolinian” after Biden announced his executive order.
The Palmetto State topped the entire country in COVID-19 case rates last week and continues to do so, per local news outlet WBTW’s analysis of CDC data.
McMaster lifted South Carolina’s state of emergency in June, claiming at the time that “we’ve worked our way very well.”
I look at it, I mean if were cynic as well, as two-pronged. The one you mentioned. The other, getting the Afghanistan debacle off the front pages. Especially since some Democrats disapprove of his handling of the evacuation while approving such mandates.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoMuskies
So if you accept the 80% immunity estimate that leaves roughly 40million Americans over the age of 20 with zero protection against a highly transmissible virus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton
I thought Go had a very good point, and you’ve added “the REST of the story”, I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by noteggs
You’re suggesting that the 40M without protection now are driving twice the cases as the 330M without protection last year?Quote:
Originally Posted by Final4
Not that much more transmissible.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoMuskies
I wonder what the next move will be in 2 months or so when cases are surging again.
I’m a cynic and I agree with both of you. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by noteggs
Also, if it is seasonal we’re due for a natural slowdown as we head into the Fall. It’s the best, greatest, most beautiful time for this.
People unaffected by Biden’s vax mandate include:
1) Those on Social Security (high risk group)
2) Those collecting welfare or unemployment benefits (among the lowest vax rate)
3) USPS employees (high Dem campaign contributors)
4) US Congress and their staffers (just to drop a middle finger along with the mandate).
Results
The viral loads in the Delta infections were ~1000 times higher than those in the earlier 19A/19B strain infections on the day when viruses were firstly detected.
Delta transmission is at 50% or more transmissible than alpha and twice as transmissible as original virus.
Increased transmissibility in a population with some waning immunity is going to show a pretty significant spike, especially in unvaccinated pockets. Just look at Ohio’s most infectious counties per capita. As someone may have pointed out earlier it may result in a quicker flattening of the spike.
I also have seen more hospitalizations with this variant. I don’t have any data yet but it seems like there is a longer hospital stay for patients that die, meaning instead of dying on day 17 it seems to be a few days later. I have no data to back this up just what it seems. On the outpatient side, it also appears to be resistant to at least one monoclonal antibody (bam). Regeneron is still effective.
I do still think behavior is driving this. Not saying people should stay home, I’m sick of staying home as is everyone else. But compare this summer to last summer as far as activities go. There are crowds at schools, football games, concerts, etc. which is great. But we can’t fairly compare this year to last year or region to region because the behaviors are quite different. Without vaccinations I can’t imagine what numbers we would be seeing.
You mean this mandate could be politically motivated? Say it ain’t so!Quote:
Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton
I don’t think you could force it on SS recipients since that money must be statutorily paid if you qualify since it’s really your money. There’s no reason you shouldn’t force it on the other 3 groups.
Will the illegal aliens crossing the southern border be forced to get a vaccination? I don’t think so but haven’t actually seen it defined.
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Seniors are 91% vaccinated.
Sad. That’s nearly 600,000 Americans unvaxxed, threatening the vaccinated, and filling hospitals. Low hanging fruit for ending this pandemic. Come on Joe - mandate ‘em.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
Yeah, the Seniors who stay home most of time are the problem, not the 70 million unvaxxed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton
If you’re talking about saving lives then yes that 1% of the unvaccinated being a highly vulnerable population is a big deal. You are interested in saving lives more than partisan posturing, right Bobbie?Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
This Nicki Minaj story is the greatest thing to come out of the pandemic.
T&Ps to her cousins testicles.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoMuskies
When another anti-mask, anti-vaccine radio host dies from Covid...do his listeners decide to get vaccinated?
As long as they get to decide, I'm fine with it. I'm glad you're coming around..Quote:
Originally Posted by paulxu
It's a good thing kids didn't have a decision about the polio vaccine.
LOL...I didn't realize that talk show listeners were kids. You mentioned talk show listeners deciding to get vaccinated...not sure what that has to do with children and polio, but hey...you do you. Again, I'm glad you're in favor of freedom of choice in this matter. Or are you not?Quote:
Originally Posted by paulxu
I went to the Bills home opener Sunday. Long lines to get in. They apologized in advance as they are having a hard time getting people to work for money. They announced today that you will need your vaccination card to get into future games. Initially one shot will get you in, but after a few weeks you will need proof of both shots. Lines are only going to get MUCH longer! That would suck if you bought season tickets and are anti-shot. Not sure how they handle that.
There will be a lot of tricky issues like this. People are still working remotely for the most part at my wife’s work, but you do need to be vaccinated to return to the office. At least a couple of Tier 1 NFL staff have lost 7 figure jobs because they would not get the shot as required by the league. I don’t claim to have the perfect answer….tricky stuff!
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I would take 99% vaccinated. I just quote facts but everything is political with you. Here's your rendition of a squirrel: https://kids.nationalgeographic.com/...s/mallard-duckQuote:
Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton
Interesting language. How about for Medical freedom and the Constitution as opposed to anti-shot. You're comment was very unamerican.Quote:
Originally Posted by xu82