I do not advocate for condom mandates. WTF, 82.
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This is spiraling downward in an ugly way that is unlikely to improve on a Friday night. I’d suggest a truce until the morning, but that’s just me. Anyone else see it that way?
I fear if it is nuked here, it starts leaking into everything else. Let’s keep all the shit in one can. The problem is not in the discussion, the problem is in the people who are wedded to one extreme or the other. IMO. Most people are up the middle of the road, the LOUDEST people are on either extreme. Loud people are not usually the smartest people, from my experience.
I’m sure this will get lost in the shuffle of garbage but I do find this pretty interesting and in line with what I’ve seen in real life.
Despite making up 2.7% of the population, 40 - 44% of breakthrough hospitalizations have been in the immunocompromised. I think it may be a bit lower that that but even so that is why they are recommending a 3rd shot.
Pfizer shot will be fully approved in the next week in all likelihood…
I'm open to new info but I'm not open to feckless "experts" who are all over the place. I've heard and researched as much as possible. I don't find it extreme to take a position once you have data and understand the statistics. If you are in an at risk pop you should: Get vaxxed, wear a mask and try to get on with your life as best as possible.
We're in a circular logical spiral and can't plant a foot to move forward. Be moderate all you want but other people have figured out what's best for them and are growing ever more tired of this dance. As always, check your premise as you receive new information. For instance, if they start wearing masks instead of bio-suits in biohazard labs (that is hyperbolic, I'm aware) I'd adjust my premise to new information.
Hey Lou. He's tuned you out. I understand why you want to respond to it though considering the barrage you receive here. Keep posting the info you got (if the mods are going to keep this thread going). Same for the others. It helps to get both sides since much of what you post is considered mis-info by some.
T Paine (not making a direct comparison people. Loose analogy for the sake of this sole post) was considered mis-info by some for similar reasons.
Thanks SB! From my POV, I want to present the alternative side since it's being actively suppressed my the MSM and big tech. That is not science. Scientific hypothesis/assumptions/data must pass thru rigorous and robust debate to get us all to the truth. Bad and horrible decisions are being made because the whole story isn't being told. I appreciate you, Muskie in Dayton and others for supporting free and open debate....
I’m not sure where to start here, but I’ll ignore most of the nonsense. “Circular logical spiral” my ass. Your stuff is bullshit. People have gone from almost no masks to almost all masks. No bio-suits, but the world is changing and I accept the new information.
You say you would adapt, yet you still argue for “your side”. I don’t have “a side”. I just pay attention.
I took groceries to my 93 year old mother yesterday. You know who the “at risk pop” is? That is the entire population. You apparently can’t comprehend that, so I don’t see how we can continue a meaningful conversation about this topic.
Nice post.
What is compelling people to wear masks?
What exactly is the "entire population" at risk of (in response to your hyperbolic statement, I'm sure you're aware).
Curiously you claimed I have a side. I don't, I'm for people being free to hear information and make their decisions. Not sure why that's extreme to you unless your hiding your own extremism behind the veneer of moderation?
Your premise is that we're all at risk. You need to define the risk before applying it to your premise.
Don’t move the goalposts. I said the entire population. I didn’t include at risk, but you did in your attempt to twist your point. That’s how you guys work. I’m up front. I don’t know it all. Only clowns pretend to have all the answers. You expose yourself when you try stuff like that.
The entire population IS at risk. Let’s stay focused on the facts. Our DIL’s sister is the ring leader among SIX daughters. She was anti-vax until a couple days ago. A close friend in her 30’s is apparently brain dead in a hospital in Orlando.
You feel free to be you and argue for “that side”.
I wear a mask when working with fiberglass insulation.