Politics Thread

The AP News in 2019:

"The increase reported by the Office for National Statistics follows a 0.2% contraction in the second quarter which stoked talk of a recession, widely defined as two consecutive quarters of economic contraction."


The AP News today:

"The U.S. economy shrank from April through June for a second straight quarter, contracting at a 0.9% annual pace and raising fears that the nation may be approaching a recession."


Sadly, the AP News is one of only three news sources that Hogan's hero consumes, and he thinks he's getting truthful unbiased news from them....



https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-ne...9738e8f3032d8e

https://apnews.com/article/us-econom...974223dad5825f

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Who wrote this piece you quoted?

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Clarence Thomas.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

You join an opinion that is very unpopular with the majority of Americans, you might get some people exercising their right to disagree with the ruling.
He suggests that maybe same sex marriage and contraception could be on the agenda to do away with those rights. (no mention of inter racial marriage; wonder why not?)

But he could have continued to teach the class. Man up and do it. He chose to opt out; they didn't ask him to quit.


You young 'uns might want to stock up on contraception means in case they outlaw that next.

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Once you get past 15 weeks, or the first trimester, 65% of Americans oppose abortion. And France bans it after 12 weeks.
The Mississippi law called for a post 15 week ban. So no. The “majority” of Americans do not oppose the opinion as it was based on Mississippi.
Tell me Paul. Do you support an “opportunity” (since it is NOT a “right” contained in the Constitution) for a woman to choose to abort up to the moment before a baby is born? Because that is what your party wants to enshrine.

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Please point to where such a Separation exists in the Constitution. Is someone proposing a National religion? We have no national religion nor should we. Nor should we limit the expression of any religion. That, is what the 1st states clearly.

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I concur with these thoughts. The original colonists were fleeing religious persecution.
Although separation is not noted in the Constitution (except by implication in the protection afforded in the 1st amendment), I would agree with Jefferson that there is a wall, and the 1st protects all religious expression.
Which is why "white Christian nationalism" is so troubling. Especially if you are not white, a Christian, or a nationalist.

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

The “majority” of Americans do not oppose the opinion as it was based on Mississippi.

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The opinion did not establish the Mississippi standard of 15 weeks. It left it open to all states, some of which have zero standard.
Don't you live in Ohio; I think they have a hard 6 weeks with no exception for the rape of a 10 year old girl.

So yes...the majority of Americans oppose this reasoning.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

The opinion did not establish the Mississippi standard of 15 weeks. It left it open to all states, some of which have zero standard.
Don't you live in Ohio; I think they have a hard 6 weeks with no exception for the rape of a 10 year old girl.

So yes...the majority of Americans oppose this reasoning.

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Wrong on Ohio

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Clarence Thomas.

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The quoted portions were indeed written by the Justice. Who cobbled them together in this manner and published it?

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Originally Posted by paulxu

I concur with these thoughts. The original colonists were fleeing religious persecution.
Although separation is not noted in the Constitution (except by implication in the protection afforded in the 1st amendment), I would agree with Jefferson that there is a wall, and the 1st protects all religious expression.
Which is why "white Christian nationalism" is so troubling. Especially if you are not white, a Christian, or a nationalist.

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Not all of them.

The is no “Wall” (of separation) in the 1st in the context of Jefferson’s letter to a religious sect/church in New England. That letter has been used to trample on the free expression of religion which was never intended for some time.

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Originally Posted by noteggs

Wrong on Ohio

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Sorry. What's the current Ohio law?

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Not all of them.

The is no “Wall” (of separation) in the 1st in the context of Jefferson’s letter to a religious sect/church in New England. That letter has been used to trample on the free expression of religion which was never intended for some time.

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Just curious. My memory is that his letter has been used to uphold the separation of church and state, protecting the freedom of religious expression.

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In Everson v. Board of Education (1947), which first applied the First Amendment’s establishment clause to the states, the Supreme Court relied on Jefferson’s metaphor in announcing a strict standard of separation between church and state.

Justice Hugo L. Black concluded his opinion for the Court’s majority with the pronouncement that “[t]he First Amendment has erected a wall between church and state. That wall must be kept high and impregnable. We could not approve the slightest breach. New Jersey has not breached it here.”

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When has it been used to trample the free expression of religion?