Politics Thread

Y'all spend a lot of time attacking the messengers; be they posters (me), writers (people on various publications)...and as always, totally evade the issue presented.
There's a real problem in this country with militant white nationalism, and it's been integrated into parts of the evangelical movement to produce people who believe God somehow favors America over other nations. They go to great lengths with (mostly latter chapters) to use the Bible to support their claims.
When you mix religion, politics and occasionally guns...thing can go terribly wrong.

Try to reasonably address those concerns, which many on all sides share (as I've tried to point out with references)...and not the messengers.

If you can't do that, perhaps better to let this discussion die out.

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Originally Posted by paulxu

There's a real problem in this country with militant white nationalism

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Is there, though? It generally seems people are only able to come to that conclusion after defining "militant white nationalism" in a way that no normie would really expect. Same with people talking about the rise of "white supremacy" (which it turns out means things like "belief in meritocracy" and "belief in the importance of punctuality").

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Originally Posted by paulxu

Y'all spend a lot of time attacking the messengers; be they posters (me), writers (people on various publications)...and as always, totally evade the issue presented.
There's a real problem in this country with militant white nationalism, and it's been integrated into parts of the evangelical movement to produce people who believe God somehow favors America over other nations. They go to great lengths with (mostly latter chapters) to use the Bible to support their claims.
When you mix religion, politics and occasionally guns...thing can go terribly wrong.

Try to reasonably address those concerns, which many on all sides share (as I've tried to point out with references)...and not the messengers.

If you can't do that, perhaps better to let this discussion die out.

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You, and your stripe, are dangerously content to soak in the tepid pool of "wokeness".

"Militant White Nationalism"? Are you out of your Rabid ass mind? I live in BROWN CO. and have NEVER had anyone...anywhere try to influence me in that direction, in any way.

You do realize that the BLM/Antifa movements are FLUSH with anti-USA $$$$, and the supporting far left progressives/MSM army, wields FAR more influence In our declining society than any threat from any "White Nationalist" movements. Point to ONE far right "White Nationalist " group that can compete with the insane documented BLM cash coffers.

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Originally Posted by GoMuskies

Is there, though? It generally seems people are only able to come to that conclusion after defining "militant white nationalism" in a way that no normie would really expect. Same with people talking about the rise of "white supremacy" (which it turns out means things like "belief in meritocracy" and "belief in the importance of punctuality").

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Yeah, and silly stuff like "The content of one's character, not the color of one's skin"!

What do you call a black man at the republican convention?
The keynote speaker.

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Originally Posted by Xuperman

"Militant White Nationalism"? Are you out of your Rabid ass mind? I live in BROWN CO. and have NEVER had anyone...anywhere try to influence me in that direction, in any way.

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I can see that rational discourse or reading of references is not your thing. So, they provided visual aids. I'll re-post to help you understand what it looks like. Contrary to what you may have heard, these are not tourists.

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/asse...-super-169.jpg

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/asse...-super-169.jpg

Correct, some were not tourists. BUT, equally not organized insurrectionists and guessing 99.9% of them love their country.

Anything that happened on J6 is dwarfed by the HATE your country BLM riots. Those WERE ORGANIZED.....and raged for months in an insane bloody violent horror show. Rational discourse? Not going to happen, here or anywhere it really matters, until people like you can see the vast destructive difference between the two movements.

Google BLM riots for some firery "reference" photos that just warms the heart.

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Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee

They both conceded. trump never.

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They never conceded. I provided articles. Hilary never stopped calling her opponent an “Illegitimate President”.

https://abcnews.go.com/theview/video...ident-66010832

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Originally Posted by Xuperman

Correct, some were not tourists. BUT, equally not organized insurrectionists and guessing 99.9% of them love their country.

Anything that happened on J6 is dwarfed by the HATE your country BLM riots. Those WERE ORGANIZED.....and raged for months in an insane bloody violent horror show. Rational discourse? Not going to happen, here or anywhere it really matters, until people like you can see the vast destructive difference between the two movements.

Google BLM riots for some firery "reference" photos that just warms the heart.

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I'm going to disagree. The fiery riots around the BLM protests were horrible, that was certainly true.
I hesitate to call some few people who decided to use the protests as cover to break into stores and loot, as "organized."

If you want to see real organized, follow the Justice Department's indictments of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers who were highly organized, and dedicated to using "normies" to break into the Capitol and stop the peaceful transfer of power. It may even turn out they were organized with help from people close to the president like Stone and Bannon.

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Originally Posted by Masterofreality

They never conceded. I provided articles. Hilary never stopped calling her opponent an “Illegitimate President”.

https://abcnews.go.com/theview/video...ident-66010832

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She said he was illegitimate because of the assistance he got from Russia.
But...that is far different that not conceding.
She conceded the election to him when she lost.

“Last night, I congratulated Donald Trump and offered to work with him on behalf of our country,” Clinton said. “I hope that he will be a successful president for all Americans."
"We owe him an open mind and a chance to lead. Our constitutional democracy enshrines the peaceful transition of power. We don't just respect that; we cherish it," Clinton said of the GOP president-elect, who had refused to say many times during a very contentious campaign whether he would accept the results of the election should he lose.

You think the former president would ever be mature enough to do something like this? I sincerely doubt it.