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Originally Posted by Xville

I can understand a bit of that, and I appreciate your response. I really wish we could go back to a world where the news is just reported, there was some kind of compromise in Washington, and social media didn’t exist.

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Spot on 'ville,
This country would be in a very different place if the Floyd riots were reported on with the same horror as the MSM portrayed J6. Not to mention the appalling void of coverage by the MSM on the Big City black on black bloodbath. There is ZERO interest unless a white guy is involved....this crap has to have maximum push back by ALL of us! The current Democratic Party has been infiltrated by so many far left lunatics completely determined to divide us, in an attempt to force this country to pay for perceived past sins. It's not sustainable in the long term, and the vast majority will not take it much longer. The progressive left is on death row.

Right on cue.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/espn-hate...d-choking-wife

This type of sh!t is officially a national cancer. I predict in 10 years, all traditional American sports will die of self inflicted political trauma. Only soccer and trans beach volleyball will survive.

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Originally Posted by Xuperman

Spot on 'ville,
This country would be in a very different place if the Floyd riots were reported on with the same horror as the MSM portrayed J6. Not to mention the appalling void of coverage by the MSM on the Big City black on black bloodbath. There is ZERO interest unless a white guy is involved....this crap has to have maximum push back by ALL of us! The current Democratic Party has been infiltrated by so many far left lunatics completely determined to divide us, in an attempt to force this country to pay for perceived past sins. It's not sustainable in the long term, and the vast majority will not take it much longer. The progressive left is on death row.

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Exactly. The media is the enemy of America, and most people have caught on.

Has anyone seen the "Both Sides" app? It presents how Left, Center, and Right media outlets report the same event so wildly differently. It also provides a L/R bias rating for dozens of news sources.

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Originally Posted by Xuperman

Right on cue.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/espn-hate...d-choking-wife

This type of sh!t is officially a national cancer. I predict in 10 years, all traditional American sports will die of self inflicted political trauma. Only soccer and trans beach volleyball will survive.

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The article was objectively shit, but I (sort of) actually agree with one of his points. Actually, I don't even know if this was the point he was trying to make, but he at least touch on it...

Symbolism and ceremony have become overvalued. People think they are actually supporting and/or helping something simply by participating in a ceremony or sporting some sort of symbol.

Big conservative patriot guy: "I SUPPORT THE TROOPS!! I STAND FOR THE FLAG!!!"

Well, that's great. But, did you speak up when the budget cuts slashed the benefits for vets by over 40 percent a few years ago?? Did you even know that happened?? Do you donate, or even visit, veterans hospitals?? Do you have an opinion on the high substance abuse rate and suicide rate among veterans?? Have you called out the elected officials (who have ties to both parties) for not supporting these causes?? Standing for the flag in and of itself doesn't do anything.

And then the guys on the other side. "I KNEEL DURING THE ANTHEM."

Well, okay, that's great too. But do you ever donate to public schools or social service agencies? Do you ever volunteer? Do you ever reach out to your elected representatives and express how you want more money be spent on inner city public schools and after school programs? Do you support community policing, and have you noticed that the few cities that seem to have taken it on have actually experienced some success??

So, we now have people on both sides fighting each other over something that really doesn't amount to anything at all. "They won't stand for the Anthem!!" Well...at the end of the day, so what?? Standing or kneeling isn't tangible. If that's all someone is willing to do, then they're really not doing anything. Don't "support the troops" by standing for The Anthem and yelling at the people who don't. That's not doing anything to tangibly support anyone. And don't kneel for The Anthem and then yell at the people who are telling you that you should stand. That isn't tangibly supporting anyone either.

And...neither do BLM flags, Blue Lives Matter flags, Flag flags, Pride flags, or anything else that you see.

Now, don't get me wrong. I really don't have an issue with any of that in and of itself. I'm not saying we need to get rid of all symbols and ceremonies. I am saying that we need to stop thinking that symbols and ceremonies in and of themselves actually tangibly do anything. Because they don't. The NFL and MLB spent a fortune on these patriotic spectacles to "Support the Troops." None of that money actually went to the troops. In fact much of htis was happening at a time when benefits were being significantly cut. THAT SHOULD BOTHER PEOPLE!!!!!! To be bothered by someone who kneels and to not be bothered at all by things that actually hurt the troops/vets seems way off base to me.

You know, I hate to say this, but I question whether or not we are going to make it. Much of what we fight over now are things that didn't matter to anyone as recently as ten years ago. We invent ways to divide ourselves, and in the grand scheme of it most of it really doesn't matter or shouldn't matter. It's as if we're doing it because we actually want to fight with one another. That doesn't strike me as being a sign of long term stability.

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Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton

Exactly. The media is the enemy of America, and most people have caught on.

Has anyone seen the "Both Sides" app? It presents how Left, Center, and Right media outlets report the same event so wildly differently. It also provides a L/R bias rating for dozens of news sources.

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Agree. The media is supposed to protect the citizenry against the government regardless of who's in office. They have failed miserably over the last several decades and have become progressively worse.

Additionally, and more importantly, I would argue the government and the elites are at war with the American people. Unfortunately, I don't think most people have caught on to this. They see this as mostly a left-right dynamic, when in reality it's become more of a Goliath versus David dynamic in recent years/decades.

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Originally Posted by XU_Lou

Agree. The media is supposed to protect the citizenry against the government regardless of who's in office. They have failed miserably over the last several decades and have become progressively worse.

Additionally, and more importantly, I would argue the government and the elites are at war with the American people. Unfortunately, I don't think most people have caught on to this. They see this as mostly a left-right dynamic, when in reality it's become more of a Goliath versus David dynamic in recent years/decades.

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Alright, Ill reply to my own post. As a perfect example of what I'm talking about, there are massive protests going on in the Netherlands over a proposed law that would effectively put 30% of all farms and their livestock out of business:

https://www.zerohedge.com/commoditie...ng-regulations

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...-crowds-video/

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Originally Posted by XU_Lou

Alright, Ill reply to my own post. As a perfect example of what I'm talking about, there are massive protests going on in the Netherlands over a proposed law that would effectively put 30% of all farms and their livestock out of business:

https://www.zerohedge.com/commoditie...ng-regulations

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...-crowds-video/

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Pretty big story, and not a peep from MSM because it is counter to their agenda. This also was reflected in the fact that almost no one here was aware of the Australian Covid interment camps or Trudeau seizing assets of political opponents. Something is going to have to give soon.

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Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton;736401[B

]Pretty big story, and not a peep from MSM because it is counter to their agenda.[/B] This also was reflected in the fact that almost no one here was aware of the Australian Covid interment camps or Trudeau seizing assets of political opponents. Something is going to have to give soon.

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Ugh...a simple google search turned up plenty of stories regarding this from what you call MSM. Be better.

How it was reported is significantly different considering those two links are from far right sources and ABC and Washington Post are on the other spectrum.

My assumption based on that, and like most everything else, is that the actual story is somewhere in the middle.

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Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton

Pretty big story, and not a peep from MSM because it is counter to their agenda. This also was reflected in the fact that almost no one here was aware of the Australian Covid interment camps or Trudeau seizing assets of political opponents. Something is going to have to give soon.

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Originally Posted by Xville

Ugh...a simple google search turned up plenty of stories regarding this from what you call MSM. Be better.

How it was reported is significantly different considering those two links are from far right sources and ABC and Washington Post are on the other spectrum.

My assumption based on that, and like most everything else, is that the actual story is somewhere in the middle.

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I'm going to the Netherlands next week to visit some friends. She has yet to mention this. This is the first I've heard of it.

Another friend I have from Australia, who contracted COVID while she was physically in Australia, didn't mention anything about being taken to an internment camp either.

I'm not saying there's NO truth to these stories. I'm just saying that PERHAPS they are somewhat exaggerated. Just a little bit. Maybe.