Covid-19

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Originally Posted by xu82

I think you can have more than one goal. Just my opinion, but I don’t think you have to choose between the two if you do it correctly. He asked why a place that saves lives has to worry about revenue. On some level, everyone needs to worry about revenue. It would be great if we had unlimited resources to pay the staff and keep the lights on while paying for all that fancy equipment, but that money has to come from somewhere. If for profit healthcare can be smarter and/or more efficient than a public option, why should I resent that competition? It’s a tricky balancing act.

This is a rabbit hole I don’t want to go down, so I’ll leave it at that.

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Your recent question and follow-up responses were spot on.

Government controlled medical care versus private enterprise medical care. Gee, I wonder which of the two is FUNDAMENTALLY the better way to go.

Seeing more and more signs that this is all pointing back to China and "sloppy handling" by a technician at that Wuhan lab. Do people still want to believe that this wasn't purposefully released by the Chinese???

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Originally Posted by Lamont Sanford

Seeing more and more signs that this is all pointing back to China and "sloppy handling" by a technician at that Wuhan lab. Do people still want to believe that this wasn't purposefully released by the Chinese???

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I don't know if they did it on purpose or if their sloppy lab work was the culprit.

I also suspect they'll continue to deny and deflect.

But ALL OF THIS is on them.

Most importantly, I hope and pray that our response to all this is absolute: we do not look to them for responses, fixes or go-forward solutions, because we immediately begin to pull back all critical and strategic manufacturing to the United States. We hurt them where it is going to hurt the most. It's complicated; it will lead to a series of effects and conflicts, but it's the right thing to do. How on God's earth does any sovereign nation that is founded on freedom, ethics and morals - mostly - allow itself to become too tied into a communist regime that doesn't even care about its own people?

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Originally Posted by xudash

How on God's earth does any sovereign nation that is founded on freedom, ethics and morals - mostly - allow itself to become too tied into a communist regime that doesn't even care about its own people?

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Money - cheap goods/labor.

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Originally Posted by Lamont Sanford

Seeing more and more signs that this is all pointing back to China and "sloppy handling" by a technician at that Wuhan lab. Do people still want to believe that this wasn't purposefully released by the Chinese???

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How are there more signs? This continues to be a ridiculous conspiracy theory that has no scientific basis, yet is impossible to disprove. Even if they found the exact host, there will be people that will say it was planted or fake news. Animal spillover happens unfortunately, and there are interviews with the scientists that actually worked in this lab and in China that have no reason to cover anything up that claim this is 100% nature origin that more than likely was a spillover from a bat. Also there is evidence that this didn’t start in Wuhan, but expanded in Wuhan.

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Originally Posted by xudash

Your recent question and follow-up responses were spot on.

Government controlled medical care versus private enterprise medical care. Gee, I wonder which of the two is FUNDAMENTALLY the better way to go.

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You are almost ALWAYS going to be better for a little competition, ESPECIALLY if it’s a public enterprise.

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Originally Posted by Lloyd Braun

How are there more signs? This continues to be a ridiculous conspiracy theory that has no scientific basis, yet is impossible to disprove. Even if they found the exact host, there will be people that will say it was planted or fake news. Animal spillover happens unfortunately, and there are interviews with the scientists that actually worked in this lab and in China that have no reason to cover anything up that claim this is 100% nature origin that more than likely was a spillover from a bat. Also there is evidence that this didn’t start in Wuhan, but expanded in Wuhan.

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You seriously believe the nonsense of "no reason to cover anything up"....really? You are talking about a lab in a communist country.

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Originally Posted by Xville

You seriously believe the nonsense of "no reason to cover anything up"....really? You are talking about a lab in a communist country.

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I was referring to American scientists that worked in that lab vouching for the lab workers there. Should have specified that.

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Originally Posted by xudash

Your recent question and follow-up responses were spot on.

Government controlled medical care versus private enterprise medical care. Gee, I wonder which of the two is FUNDAMENTALLY the better way to go.

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I think we disagree on the fundamentals :) which won't stop me from advocating Medicare For All. It's my belief that you cannot morally run a for-profit healthcare system. I mean, we've heard stories about doctors and nurses having their pay cut because Covid patients aren't profitable enough. I don't understand how one can defend that system.

Looks like DeWine and some other governors are looking to get the economy revved back up (slowly) starting May 1. Good news. See you all at the downtown casino for a craps game at 12:01 am on May 1!