Yea, I know - you don't seem to handle critical analysis all that well. Keep your head in the sand - it's pretty safe down there...Quote:
Originally Posted by xu82
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Yea, I know - you don't seem to handle critical analysis all that well. Keep your head in the sand - it's pretty safe down there...Quote:
Originally Posted by xu82
You must love irony.Quote:
Originally Posted by XU_Lou
Wait everyone, Tin-Foil Hat Lou is going to teach us something by visiting an extremist blog, find a whacked out theory he agrees with, post some nonsense and say "See, I'm right, and you are all sheep baaaa baaaa" ----critical analysis indeed!
Don't you have a participation trophy collection to admire?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xville
Cops should be busy responding to kids with masks according to nutjob Carlson. Might need more money for the child welfare system.
Cops should receive medals for shooting unarmed protestors according to the nut job Bobbiemcgee...Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
Fixed that for youQuote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Only the ones storming the Capitol with poles and bear spray. They weren't "unarmed'. Get a clue. What would you do? Invite them over for tea? Usual OT whataboutism from the right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Officer Fanone: "My experience was savage, brutal hand to hand combat" for hours.
I'm not surprised for the support of Carlson's position here. Guess these posters don't have kids. Doesn't bother them when Carlson suggests ripping a mask off the face of their kid and calling the cops and child protective services. Frankly, i would have to kick the crap out of him if he came near my grandkids.
My son usually wears his wrong anyway. Wouldn't take much to rip it off of him.
The only hand to hand he experienced was playing with himself whilst hiding behind a wall according to the video.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
Didn't say I support his comments. Pointing out how ignorant your rants are. I have kids. They wear masks to school.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
So it's ok to have some stranger rip it off when they come out of school and call the cops?Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Maybe I need to use fewer syllables. I. No. Ok. Carlson's. Words.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
Good for you. carlson's an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
I. No. Like. Those. Words. Some. Carlson's. Words. Good.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
Was Fanone the officer who killed Ashli Babbitt?Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
Who supports Carlson's position here? Is there a single person who said they supported what he said? Me thinks you are literally making shit upQuote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
Maybe like you the shit you made up with post 4526? Glad you concur he's a moron.That was the whole point before you brought 1/6 into it.
LOL...you said people on here agreed with Carlsons position on kids and masks. Nobody said that or anything like that..not even close. And it was someone else (not me) who brought 1/6 into this conversation, so you just made that up too. Did you or did you not say that the cop who killed Ashli Babbit should get a medal? Try to answer this one without making something up you kook.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
Yeah you just fixed it with insults. if you're losing the argument, resort to name calling. Always a good strategy for internet trolls.
And since you changed the subject AGAIN, I can only say Ashli Babbitt, was one of five people who died as a result of the invasion of the Capitol by a mob of former President Donald Trump’s supporters. Regrettable. Should she get a medal?
https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100...-rockaway.html - I worked here for 6 weeks on a Psychiatry rotation this past winter, I knew Dr. Lee pretty well, would have had no idea how it affected him. Same goes to other people in this video that I knew. The area Far Rockaway is in is a poor socioeconomic area, plenty of nursing homes/assisted living facility, and it makes sense. They were very strict about COVID rules and I understand why compared to a couple other places that are a little more laxed (not requiring a face shield in the hospital at all times, etc.), seeing the aftermath at St. John's, it hit different areas much differently, the demographics of the area definitely were in play, but man, brutal at times.Quote:
Originally Posted by xu82
Finally getting to this, so interestingly (but making sense) enough is that the ACE2 receptor that COVID binds to seems to be present at great quantities in some of the brain blood vessels, and upregulated aka a shit ton more of them around in dementia and hypertension patients, the spike protein is how COVID enters the cell, looks like the spike protein from theory is associated with some changes to the vessels of the brain, this is pretty important as the blood-brain-barrier is pretty tight, it's very picky about what it lets cross through as on the other side of the blood vessels are where your neurons live to carry out all your brain functions, this is basically saying it's making the vessels weaker, more "toxins" can filter through into the brain, and could be an explanation for some of the more neurological problems seen in COVID.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton
In relation to the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines, we know that the mRNA codes for the spike protein of COVID to elicit an antibody response, however, it doesn't code for the ENTIRE protein, just fragments of it, and when it's injected into muscle, the muscle cells make the protein and show it on their cell surface. Now, I don't know the exact logistics/mechanism completely, so I'm shooting in the dark here, but I don't think it should cause concern for the vaccine creating spike proteins that could possibly alter your brain vessels. Where it's not the entire protein, you're not going to have complete spike proteins being formed, and we're not sure what part of the spike protein leads to the disruption of the blood brain barrier. Proteins are made in ribosomes which basically every cell has, immature red blood cells have a shit ton of ribosomes for. hemoglobin production, so it's not crazy to think it's possible for the vaccine to lead to neurological effects, but I'm going to brush up on my molecular biology and some papers before I theorize anything more.
No she shouldn't get a medal. I, nor anyone else on this board said anything of the sort. Did you say that righties on this board agreed with Tucker Carlson's take on masks and kids? Is there any evidence to support your claim?Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
Did you say that the cop who killed Ashli Babbit should get a medal?
Those are 3 yes or no questions.
Also, I would like to apologize for calling you a kook. That word seems to have cut you deeply and for that I am sorry.
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smails
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Originally Posted by bobbiemcgee
Are you serious? Give him a metal. Surprised they only shot one Asshole.
There’s video and he was in no danger whatsoever. Immediate danger is the standard for force for the Capital police. I don’t agree with her being there but her only actual crime was trespassing on Federal property. Still not a good idea on her part
Don't remember the quote but apparently I fucked up. No medals should be awarded for events of 1/6.
Perhaps Nancy Pelosi should open a 9/11 style commission to figure out who on the Capital Hill Police shot and killed Ashli Babbitt. The fact that her death has been COMPLETELY swept under the rug is a disgrace. Now if she were non-white...
Serious question: Did Biden really get a vaccine? Why would someone who got the vax be so obsessed with wearing a mask? Even on a zoom call with world leaders?
Why did he freak out yesterday when he couldn't find his mask:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTdF6fZ72EY
Truly, truly bizarre behavior. At best, he's giving the wrong message....
I really appreciate your time and information. This makes sense and I was able to distill this down further for someone with mRNA vaccine concerns. Plus I learned a new medical term - shit ton :-).Quote:
Originally Posted by GIMMFD
He needs to set an example...and that example is if you are vaccinated, and outside, you do not need to wear a mask. There is no science based reason to wear a mask outside, especially when you have been given a shot to prevent infection.Quote:
Originally Posted by XU_Lou
I wear my mask to comply with rules, and to not put people who are "just doing their jobs" enforcing the mandate in the middle. They don't need people giving them shit because they are trying to follow rules set in place by our governor. But if the vaccination is now available to all those who want to take it, it is time to drop the mandates. If you don't want to get vaccinated...and you have no desire to wear a mask, then you assume responsibility for all risks to your own health.
I am fully vaccinated, like I was advised to do...now leave me the fuck alone.
Haha no worries, I'm always happy to try to explain anything I see, and it's always good to be up to date on latest research! I'm just glad it makes sense haha, was a little brain dead trying to explain it, so was a little worried it may not make sense, my teaching style is trying to relate to everyday things, so lots of "shit tons" are said, I'm gonna give the paper a more thorough read since to be honest I only read the abstract, results, and skimmed the discussion aka there's probably a lot of answers to the theories I stated because these researchers are much more brilliant than I will ever be!Quote:
Originally Posted by Muskie in dayton
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Originally Posted by nuts4xu
I agree with this, although I do think that even if mask mandates are lifted many grocery stores etc. will still requires masks for the foreseeable future. I don't think we are getting out of that one for a while. Consumer studies showed early in the pandemic that shoppers were leaving some stores (for example, Walmart) due to poor mask compliance. I think they will be hyper conservative about dropping mask requirements.
The masking outside thing has been ridiculous for a while, even before the vaccines became available. I'm about the farthest thing from an anti-masker, but I can't figure out what the hell people are doing walking around my neighborhood with a mask on. You aren't coming within 20 feet of anybody, why are you wearing a mask?
Thank you. I had concerns when I understood there to be RNA manipulation (word may have too many negative connotations to be appropriate, apologies if that is the case). Based on what you stated, is there concern the increase proteins in the brain's vascular function may lead to the inhibiting of necessary or normal chemicals entering the brain?Quote:
Originally Posted by GIMMFD
Nope, so the blood-brain-barrier is a highly-selective, semi-permeable membrane, so kind of like a filter, or a guard at a gated community. When the blood-brain-barrier is functioning normally in a healthy human, it's super tight and only lets the normal stuff pass through, it's like the normal stuff has a ticket/pass that allows them to enter. So think of the edges of the blood vessels in the brain, if you visualize a blood vessel you think of it as a tube right? So the tubing of the vessel in the brain are the so called barrier, not the blood itself. What this study/paper was postulating is that certain conditions, like dementia and hypertension give you more ACE-2 receptors on the edges of these blood vessels. So how this works, the virus particle has this guy on it's surface called the SPIKE protein, this SPIKE protein recognizes the ACE-2 receptors on the blood vessels, and binds to them which allows for the virus to do some other biochemical shit I won't bore you with and boom get inside the cell. This would basically poke holes into this selective, semi-permeable membrane, allowing more things to get in. Basically, it would just drive straight through the gate breaking it open, ticket/pass be damned. So it wouldn't necessarily inhibit any normal things to get in that were already getting in, but it would just let a lot of bad things get in because it's basically a jail break at this point. If that makes sense?Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
If that makes sense, then taking it a step further, the mRNA vaccines MAKE the SPIKE protein, but JUST a small piece of it (this protein is composed of all kinds of subunits, with different functions, etc.), so unless the mRNA vaccines are making all aspects of the SPIKE protein that allows for binding to the ACE-2 receptor, and subsequent boring biochemical shit to enter the cell in this small piece they make, it's not really going to effect the blood-brain-barrier because it'll never be able to poke the holes into the membrane. They just are making a small amount for the immune system to see it, fight it off, and store that information away like a filing cabinet, because the memory immune response is much much more robust than seeing something for the first time. The ACE-2 receptors being upregulated in "disease" conditions isn't an issue (well, in this case at least) UNLESS there's corresponding SPIKE proteins that can bind, get in, and cause dysfunction.
**Also the ACE-2 receptors are found all throughout the body, this paper is postulating the receptors in the brain because of the upregulation in dementia and hypertension, which makes sense because they hold a role in blood pressure regulation, but ACE-2 receptors are also found on the surface of cells in the lungs, and that's why you get pneumonia, etc.
I really hope that all doesn't just sound like a bunch of non-sense haha.
No, no that makes sense. Queue Carville from Old School.Quote:
Originally Posted by GIMMFD
Thanks!
That's a shit-ton of good info !
Can I get an AMEN!! He needs to set the tone and tell people to get the hell out of their houses, get back to work and no more free money!Quote:
Originally Posted by nuts4xu
I was suffering from a mild case of the Irish Flu on Saturday so naturally I headed to Frischs for lunch only to find that it was closed..on a Saturday...at lunch. I talked to the Manager (who was sweeping the parking lot) and asked him why they were closed. He said business was booming but they didn't have enough staff to open..
Biden should wear a mask when indoors with 90 year-old ex-Presidents. He should not wear a mask when outside or on Zoom calls.
I went to lunch yesterday and sat out on the covered patio (as has become my custom). The regular bartender was serving the patio, which surprised me. She said all the bartenders had to take a day and be a server out there because they just couldn’t hire people. It seems they would prefer to stay home and make more money just sitting on their couch while the checks rolled in. This is so damn broken!Quote:
Originally Posted by Smails
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Haha cheers, no worries, it's usually way easier when I'm able to draw diagrams, so trying to form a coherent thought process and type it out was basically a collection of rambled thoughts, I'm glad it made sense and happy to help! As always, any other questions anybody has, I'm more than willing to break things down to make sense, I feel a lot of stuff is just presented in science terms and needs to be correlated to the basic fundamental level to allow for people to form proper opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by paulxu
Maybe restaurants and bars should pay their employees an actual livable wage. A lot of people who previously worked in that industry have left it for good because they found better paying jobs that offer a better work life balance. The fact that people are making more on unemployment now is just shining a light onto how terrible the service industry was treating their employees. Offer a reasonable pay that includes benefits and you'll have no problem hiring servers or bartenders. Offer an hourly rate that's below minimum wage with no benefits and I don't feel bad that no one wants to work for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by xu82