Paul Scruggs

Mob mentality is just as bad on this board as the Scout board. Any speculation about Scruggs or concern he's going out West for "other" reasons, or pessimism will immediately bring out the attack dogs.

NO ONE knows one way or another what Paul is going to do. So everyone has said Xavier is the clear leader for a long time, and he already took his official visit to X. No commitment. I've been around long enough and have read certain recruiting analysts long enough to know that it's not a good thing when the longer a kid waits for the supposedly "clear leader", the chances of that school getting the kid goes down.

It's a waiting game now. I think there is cause for speculation and concern if you're a fan. No harm in that. But everyone on the opposite side; the everything is roses with Paul and it's no big deal he up and moved 2000 miles from home three weeks after his senior year of HS had already started crowd, don't act like you know with 100% certainty what's going on with this recruitment.

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Originally Posted by X Factor

Mob mentality is just as bad on this board as the Scout board. Any speculation about Scruggs or concern he's going out West for "other" reasons, or pessimism will immediately bring out the attack dogs.

NO ONE knows one way or another what Paul is going to do. So everyone has said Xavier is the clear leader for a long time, and he already took his official visit to X. No commitment. I've been around long enough and have read certain recruiting analysts long enough to know that it's not a good thing when the longer a kid waits for the supposedly "clear leader", the chances of that school getting the kid goes down.

It's a waiting game now. I think there is cause for speculation and concern if you're a fan. No harm in that. But everyone on the opposite side; the everything is roses with Paul and it's no big deal he up and moved 2000 miles from home three weeks after his senior year of HS had already started crowd, don't act like you know with 100% certainty what's going on with this recruitment.

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It's pretty clear you have equivocated "disagreeing with excessive worry" and "100% optimism" on the Scout board.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

Person 1: Paul isn't coming to Xavier, let's just move on already. He clearly wants more exposure and to go to a bigger program than Xavier. Maybe even something shady is going on.

Person 2: Based on what information? All of the reliable info that is out there indicates that Xavier is still the leader and has been. Why move on from a top 40 player that we are the known favorites for and are considered in a better spot than Indiana, Michigan State, and UConn?

Person 1: EASY there buddy! It's pretty clear what is going on here, unless you have some facts you need to chill. Did Paul call you himself and tell you Xavier is his pick? Then you have no idea either and my opinion based off of emotion and your opinion based off of all the available information are the exact same, sorry I can see things from a rationale perspective and not through blue tinted glasses.

Person 2: I never said Paul was a lock to come to Xavier. The concerning thing about his recruitment is that he still hasn't committed yet, which is cause to think Paul to Xavier isn't a slam dunk. The concern over him going to a prep school doesn't seem to be the death blow to Xavier's chances like everyone thinks. Every school in the country has already seen Paul and knows who he is, and of the finalists for him none are anywhere close to his new prep school and I doubt Michigan State is moving to the west coast anytime soon.

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Originally Posted by MuskieCinci

Person 1: Paul isn't coming to Xavier, let's just move on already. He clearly wants more exposure and to go to a bigger program than Xavier. Maybe even something shady is going on.

Person 2: Based on what information? All of the reliable info that is out there indicates that Xavier is still the leader and has been. Why move on from a top 40 player that we are the known favorites for and are considered in a better spot than Indiana, Michigan State, and UConn?

Person 1: EASY there buddy! It's pretty clear what is going on here, unless you have some facts you need to chill. Did Paul call you himself and tell you Xavier is his pick? Then you have no idea either and my opinion based off of emotion and your opinion based off of all the available information are the exact same, sorry I can see things from a rationale perspective and not through blue tinted glasses.

Person 2: I never said Paul was a lock to come to Xavier. The concerning thing about his recruitment is that he still hasn't committed yet, which is cause to think Paul to Xavier isn't a slam dunk. The concern over him going to a prep school doesn't seem to be the death blow to Xavier's chances like everyone thinks. Every school in the country has already seen Paul and knows who he is, and of the finalists for him none are anywhere close to his new prep school and I doubt Michigan State is moving to the west coast anytime soon.

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I lol'ed.

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Originally Posted by MuskieCinci

Person 1: Paul isn't coming to Xavier, let's just move on already. He clearly wants more exposure and to go to a bigger program than Xavier. Maybe even something shady is going on.

Person 2: Based on what information? All of the reliable info that is out there indicates that Xavier is still the leader and has been. Why move on from a top 40 player that we are the known favorites for and are considered in a better spot than Indiana, Michigan State, and UConn?

Person 1: EASY there buddy! It's pretty clear what is going on here, unless you have some facts you need to chill. Did Paul call you himself and tell you Xavier is his pick? Then you have no idea either and my opinion based off of emotion and your opinion based off of all the available information are the exact same, sorry I can see things from a rationale perspective and not through blue tinted glasses.

Person 2: I never said Paul was a lock to come to Xavier. The concerning thing about his recruitment is that he still hasn't committed yet, which is cause to think Paul to Xavier isn't a slam dunk. The concern over him going to a prep school doesn't seem to be the death blow to Xavier's chances like everyone thinks. Every school in the country has already seen Paul and knows who he is, and of the finalists for him none are anywhere close to his new prep school and I doubt Michigan State is moving to the west coast anytime soon.

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This is really good

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Originally Posted by MuskieCinci

Person 1: Paul isn't coming to Xavier, let's just move on already. He clearly wants more exposure and to go to a bigger program than Xavier. Maybe even something shady is going on.

Person 2: Based on what information? All of the reliable info that is out there indicates that Xavier is still the leader and has been. Why move on from a top 40 player that we are the known favorites for and are considered in a better spot than Indiana, Michigan State, and UConn?

Person 1: EASY there buddy! It's pretty clear what is going on here, unless you have some facts you need to chill. Did Paul call you himself and tell you Xavier is his pick? Then you have no idea either and my opinion based off of common sense and your opinion based off of all the available information are the exact same, sorry I can see things from a rationale perspective and not through blue tinted glasses.

Person 2: I never said Paul was a lock to come to Xavier. The concerning thing about his recruitment is that he still hasn't committed yet, which is cause to think Paul to Xavier isn't a slam dunk. The concern over him going to a prep school doesn't seem to be the death blow to Xavier's chances like everyone thinks. Every school in the country has already seen Paul and knows who he is, and of the finalists for him none are anywhere close to his new prep school and I doubt Michigan State is moving to the west coast anytime soon.

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That's probably a better word.

It's hilarious to me that a blog and "some other articles" are treated as gospel, while an actual article in the indystar is completely biased and ridiculous. You can't make this stuff up. Some of you crack me up.

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Originally Posted by Xville

It's hilarious to me that a blog and "some other articles" are treated as gospel, while an actual article in the indystar is completely biased and ridiculous. You can't make this stuff up. Some of you crack me up.

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I mean, the column (not an article) 1) is geared toward Indiana HS fans who are notoriously protective/fired up about HS players leaving the state 2) basically spells out the reason for Scruggs' transfer (rift between AAU/HS coach) and 3) states that Scruggs' recruitment is likely unchanged by the transfer. Soooo not really sure it's the piece you want to point to when randomly asserting Scruggs transferred to get more exposure/isn't likely to come to X.

I don't think it's unreasonable to take the position that the longer someone is uncommitted the worse it is for the perceived leader, but I think here there's a couple of mitigating factors to that -- first, Scruggs had to make a much more pressing decision/life change, and second, nothing has really happened (no visits scheduled, etc.) to indicate a change in his recruitment, and honestly, visiting the other schools involved became more difficult.

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Originally Posted by Xville

It's hilarious to me that a blog and "some other articles" are treated as gospel, while an actual article in the indystar is completely biased and ridiculous. You can't make this stuff up. Some of you crack me up.

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It was written by Greg Doyel. Enough said.

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Originally Posted by AviatorX

I mean, the column (not an article) 1) is geared toward Indiana HS fans who are notoriously protective/fired up about HS players leaving the state 2) basically spells out the reason for Scruggs' transfer (rift between AAU/HS coach) and 3) states that Scruggs' recruitment is likely unchanged by the transfer. Soooo not really sure it's the piece you want to point to when randomly asserting Scruggs transferred to get more exposure/isn't likely to come to X.

I don't think it's unreasonable to take the position that the longer someone is uncommitted the worse it is for the perceived leader, but I think here there's a couple of mitigating factors to that -- first, Scruggs had to make a much more pressing decision/life change, and second, nothing has really happened (no visits scheduled, etc.) to indicate a change in his recruitment, and honestly, visiting the other schools involved became more difficult.

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My point was that the article/column whatever you want to call it is being called biased and ridiculous while a blog is being treated as gospel. That's all. And, the fact that the blog and column said different things yet again one being treated as gospel by some on here while the other is completely erroneous.

My main point is that no one knows what is going on here yet some people who think they are insiders and know the inner workings of a high school senior based on a few written pieces that basically have the same information as any of us do. Thou shalt not have an opinion that some consider a detriment to the Xavier basketball team. Now say five hail Marys and two our fathers...your sin is forgiven.