View Full Version : Game Thread: Xavier v Villanova University (2/7/2024)
paulxu
02-06-2024, 11:14 AM
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CINCINNATI --- The Xavier University Musketeers, 12-10 overall and 6-5 in the BIG EAST Conference, open a two-game homestand on Wednesday night against the Villanova University Wildcats, 12-10 overall and 5-6 in the BIG EAST. Xavier enters the contest on a two-game winning streak, while Villanova is coming off a Sunday victory over Providence.
Graduate student Quincy Olivari leads the BIG EAST in scoring (19.1 ppg.), 3-point field goals (3.1 per game) and 3-point field goal percentage (fifth in the nation at .454). He was named Naismith Trophy and BIG EAST Conference Player of the Week after averaging 33.0 points, 8.5 rebounds, 2.5 assists and 3.5 steals per game in wins over St. John's and at DePaul.
THE MATCHUP
XAVIER UNIVERSITY MUSKETEERS (12-10, 6-5 BIG EAST)
VILLANOVA UNIVERSITY WILDCATS (12-10, 5-6 BIG EAST)
WEDNESDAY, FEB. 7, 2024 AT 7:00 P.M. ET
CINTAS CENTER IN CINCINNATI, OHIO
TV, RADIO AND LIVE STATS
Television: FS1 with play-by-play from Jeff Levering and analysis from LaPhonso Ellis.
Xavier Radio: 700 WLW-AM with play-by-play from Xavier Hall of Famer
Joe Sunderman ('79) analysis from XU all-time leading scorer and Hall of Famer Byron Larkin ('88). XU broadcast is also on the Varsity Network and on SXM.
Live Stats: Media stats at Statbroadcast.com (http://Statbroadcast.com) and fan stats at GoXavier.com (http://GoXavier.com)
drudy23
02-06-2024, 11:50 AM
Win please.
xukeith
02-06-2024, 01:52 PM
Really hope X's defense comes out strong like the beginning of DePaul game and SJU game.
American X
02-06-2024, 02:43 PM
Win please.
Yes, winning on Wednesday sets up a huge opportunity on Saturday for a quality win against Creighton. 2-0 this week makes a bid much more realistic.
Xville
02-06-2024, 02:59 PM
Time for some payback!
X-band '01
02-06-2024, 05:00 PM
https://youtu.be/mLnZhbbM_ks?si=zuGWOUpcez_B9pU0&t=15
Powerful enough to make Judd Nelson shit his pants
Xville
02-07-2024, 06:44 AM
Opened at 3, now x -4. Should handle them at home, get it done!
XUMIOH12
02-07-2024, 08:56 AM
Feel like it's important to get out to an early lead against nova at some point. They play so slow, at 330th tempo in the country. Would be nice to force things on them with some quick transition from our guards. Also, wouldn't mind seeing Xavier use some 3/4 court faux press. Nova isn't likely to attack it aggressively past half court and would give them less time on each shot clock to grind out their offense.
XUMIOH12
02-07-2024, 08:57 AM
Worried about Dixon, have to find a way to contain him. Played them without Moore last game, but he doesn't worry me as much sicne we have better matchup options there.
American X
02-07-2024, 10:04 AM
Feel like it's important to get out to an early lead against nova at some point. They play so slow, at 330th tempo in the country. Would be nice to force things on them with some quick transition from our guards. Also, wouldn't mind seeing Xavier use some 3/4 court faux press. Nova isn't likely to attack it aggressively past half court and would give them less time on each shot clock to grind out their offense.
For teams with near identical records and ratings, a real contrast in styles and experience. Xavier's Speedy Gonzales type of basketball versus Villanova's paint drying. Plus a chasm of difference in cumulative years of experience. Hopefully with the home crowd energy, Xavier can impose its style more than Villanova can drain the clock until our demise.
bjf123
02-07-2024, 06:01 PM
Quincy wearing a Jerome Hunter jersey for the player introductions!
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Blue Blooded-05
02-07-2024, 06:06 PM
Des is a 50% shooter from 3 in his career while wearing corn rows
Three Point Pete
02-07-2024, 06:09 PM
Need to feed inside
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noteggs
02-07-2024, 06:11 PM
Freak- James Breeding as ref
I’m guessing the under is looking good.
noteggs
02-07-2024, 06:22 PM
I’m guessing the under is looking good.
Especially with Nova’s offensive tempo
Xville
02-07-2024, 06:26 PM
We are looking really good… really aggressive attacking the rim and playing some suffocating d
noteggs
02-07-2024, 06:28 PM
We are looking really good… really aggressive attacking the rim and playing some suffocating d
Agree
Feels like we should have a bigger lead
It's Mr Hyde Claude, sigh. Here's hoping Dr Jekyll appears in the second half.
noteggs
02-07-2024, 06:34 PM
Just when Sean said next 4 minutes are important
Xville
02-07-2024, 06:34 PM
Absolutely hate the way nova plays. They set basketball back fifty years, it’s freaking hideous
Xuperman
02-07-2024, 06:34 PM
Agree
Feels like we should have a bigger lead
A lead?
Xuperman
02-07-2024, 06:35 PM
Agree
Feels like we should have a bigger lead
Gone
KabeX
02-07-2024, 06:35 PM
Kinda like my golf game - how to really screw up a good drive. C'mon boys!
Xuperman
02-07-2024, 06:36 PM
Des is a 50% shooter from 3 in his career while wearing corn rows
Corn rows not helping. Plz stop.
Xville
02-07-2024, 06:37 PM
Kinda like my golf game - how to really screw up a good drive. C'mon boys!
Ha we have similar golf games
Just when Sean said next 4 minutes are important
I think he has been proven to have been correct.
Just not the way we hoped.
noteggs
02-07-2024, 06:37 PM
Think we lost that war
Xville
02-07-2024, 06:39 PM
The ball was moving great the first 10 minutes, now it’s stopped
KabeX
02-07-2024, 06:41 PM
Go to get the requisite Skyline showing/free commercial out of the way. Now let's play some freakin ball!
Xuperman
02-07-2024, 06:45 PM
Now 2 for ELEVEN from 3.
KabeX
02-07-2024, 06:47 PM
The inside thing will work. Just got be patient.
Xville
02-07-2024, 06:50 PM
So frustrating. Best ten minutes of the season followed by ten ugly minutes…. Save olivari’s 3 :)
KabeX
02-07-2024, 06:50 PM
Sure needed that one! Now figure it out please.
Three Point Pete
02-07-2024, 06:50 PM
The inside thing will work. Just got be patient.Keep it in the [emoji439].
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bjf123
02-07-2024, 06:51 PM
The inside thing will work. Just got be patient.
Hope so. It sure isn’t working so far.
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noteggs
02-07-2024, 06:51 PM
Boy what a rough last 8 minutes. Night and day
Three Point Pete
02-07-2024, 06:54 PM
Ciani is 2-2, need him back.
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KabeX
02-07-2024, 06:54 PM
That last 3 brought us all the way up to 23%. Nova doing their usual crap against us at 45%. Thing is they're not doing anything special. Certainly not like Wright's teams. We gotta move the ball IN AND OUT of the paint. Perusing the perimeter is not going to work.
Jumpin_Jamal_Forever
02-07-2024, 06:56 PM
Masterful coaching by Neptune. He figured out how to stop the bleeding and reverse momentum. The guys they wanted to take open outside shots, Claude, Abou and McKnight were provided with those opportunities while taking away our strengths.
Let's see how Miller counter punches after halftime.
Three Point Pete
02-07-2024, 07:05 PM
That last 3 brought us all the way up to 23%. Nova doing their usual crap against us at 45%. Thing is they're not doing anything special. Certainly not like Wright's teams. We gotta move the ball IN AND OUT of the paint. Perusing the perimeter is not going to work.Tell Abou that 0-5 is forcing a bad shot, like Kabe posted, kick it back.
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Xuperman
02-07-2024, 07:07 PM
Masterful coaching by Neptune. He figured out how to stop the bleeding and reverse momentum. The guys they wanted to take open outside shots, Claude, Abou and McKnight were provided with those opportunities while taking away our strengths.
Let's see how Miller counter punches after halftime.
Neptune masterful?
He did nothing but bring in a known sniper in Hausen...Dixon is already the best player on the floor AND drains a deep 3.
Unfortunately, this Xavier team has been a real disappointment at Cintas. This is going to be a real struggke.
ArizonaXUGrad
02-07-2024, 07:12 PM
No room for error now, this is a must win so it's time to show it in this half.
KabeX
02-07-2024, 07:12 PM
Just can't have a veteran player loose his $hit so much. Hurting the team dude. Grow up.
noteggs
02-07-2024, 07:18 PM
3-18 from 3. Why the heck are we shooting so many!
Three Point Pete
02-07-2024, 07:21 PM
3-18 from 3. Why the heck are we shooting so many!Far better results from inside
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Xuperman
02-07-2024, 07:22 PM
This game feels really uncomfortable...Like all season, just no Cintas magic in the air.
Xville
02-07-2024, 07:23 PM
Nova fouls every single time on d.. sometimes the refs call it, sometimes they don’t.
Xville
02-07-2024, 07:26 PM
Huge 3 Dayvion!!!! Man I love that guy more and more. So glad we have him next year too
Xuperman
02-07-2024, 07:28 PM
If Hausen is a ZERO factor in this game.....a W is likely. NO Hausen.
KabeX
02-07-2024, 07:36 PM
Do not foul the 3 point shooter. Please!
KabeX
02-07-2024, 07:38 PM
I don't mind Ellis - certainly not like some do. But has he ever saw a BAD call by an official?
noteggs
02-07-2024, 07:40 PM
He always says they are right 96% of the time
Xuperman
02-07-2024, 07:41 PM
Where is Olavari? C'mon man....this is the season.
HenryMuto
02-07-2024, 07:44 PM
Honestly I didn't even realize Hunter or Freemantle were still on the team until today hearing Hunter out for year and seeing Freemantle just now on TV.
HenryMuto
02-07-2024, 07:45 PM
That 6 point lead is gone now tied at 50.
Pretty much a must win game tonight. Got to have this one.
Blue Blooded-05
02-07-2024, 07:45 PM
They are getting to the hoop with ease
Xville
02-07-2024, 07:45 PM
Q is getting absolutely abused on d tonight. Love the kid but geez
KabeX
02-07-2024, 07:45 PM
Jezus, not good time for the Ole defense. 3 straight layups. Ugh.
Xuperman
02-07-2024, 07:48 PM
I doesn't matter what happens tonight.
This team is not a tournament team. Simply not rostered properly. WAY TOO INCONSISTENT in all areas.
Xville
02-07-2024, 07:48 PM
Foul ref???!!!
ArizonaXUGrad
02-07-2024, 07:49 PM
So very close, they need this. Focus and play some D and keep scoring and we got this. It's a home game, pull it out!!!
Xville
02-07-2024, 07:49 PM
I doesn't matter what happens tonight.
This team is not a tournament team. Simply not rostered properly. WAY TOO INCONSISTENT in all areas.
Go join the uc board.
KabeX
02-07-2024, 07:50 PM
No idea if we're a tournament team. That's why we play the games. Now go win this one!
ArizonaXUGrad
02-07-2024, 07:50 PM
Go join the uc board.
They can basically lose 2 from here on out but this one is winnable. They NEED it.
noteggs
02-07-2024, 07:50 PM
Foul ref???!!!
Two bad calls in a row!!!
Xville
02-07-2024, 07:52 PM
They can basically lose 2 from here on out but this one is winnable. They NEED it.
They need this one but they can lose 3. Regardless they should only lose two more anyways. Will they lose more? Maybe but they really shouldn’t the way the schedule is.
Blue Blooded-05
02-07-2024, 07:53 PM
Two bad calls in a row!!!
Looking at it objectively, that carry call on Nova was questionable. it was really 3 bad calls in a row.
KabeX
02-07-2024, 07:54 PM
Need Des driving and not shooting 3s
Blue Blooded-05
02-07-2024, 07:55 PM
I wouldn’t complain if Claude shoots 0/0 from three the rest of the season.
HenryMuto
02-07-2024, 07:56 PM
What a block !!!!!!
Get that weak stuff out of here !
Xville
02-07-2024, 07:56 PM
Ousmane d tonight!!!!!
Xuperman
02-07-2024, 07:57 PM
Go join the uc board.
Why would I do that you worthless lunatic?
HenryMuto
02-07-2024, 07:59 PM
That hurts now they can tie it at the line JFC
GoMuskies
02-07-2024, 07:59 PM
Stupid
Xville
02-07-2024, 07:59 PM
Ugh that was halfway down
KabeX
02-07-2024, 08:00 PM
Not a good foul. Would have had a 2 for 1 there with a chance to win if they scored. Now they have that.
Xuperman
02-07-2024, 08:00 PM
I wouldn’t complain if Claude shoots 0/0 from three the rest of the season.
Is there going to be a conversation that he is the WORST single season 3 point shooter in the history of the program?
paulxu
02-07-2024, 08:00 PM
Playing the Nova slow down game. Right into their hands.
Xville
02-07-2024, 08:01 PM
Go inside here whether it’s McKnight, Claude driving or a dump in to ousmane
Xuperman
02-07-2024, 08:01 PM
Is there going to be a conversation that he is the WORST single season 3 point shooter in the history of the program?
Yes.
KabeX
02-07-2024, 08:01 PM
Needless to say they absolutely must score.
Xville
02-07-2024, 08:02 PM
Is there going to be a conversation that he is the WORST single season 3 point shooter in the history of the program?
Why do you continue to be so negative? What is wrong with you.
paulxu
02-07-2024, 08:02 PM
Looking at it objectively, that carry call on Nova was questionable. it was really 3 bad calls in a row.
He brought the ball up to his chest, held it there a moment, took some steps, then dropped it to continue dribbling,
That's a carry.
Xuperman
02-07-2024, 08:03 PM
If Hausen is a ZERO factor in this game.....a W is likely. NO Hausen.
Well f it.
HenryMuto
02-07-2024, 08:04 PM
Too early to foul up 3 with how they can make FT's. I expect Nova to drive for a quick 2. Hope they blow it somehow.
KabeX
02-07-2024, 08:04 PM
Good. Now be sure to NOT FOUL the 3 point shooter!
Xville
02-07-2024, 08:04 PM
One stop come on boys
HenryMuto
02-07-2024, 08:05 PM
WOW THEY don't even get a shot off LOL
KabeX
02-07-2024, 08:05 PM
Yes!
paulxu
02-07-2024, 08:05 PM
Cannot believe they didn't shoot the ball.
Strange Brew
02-07-2024, 08:05 PM
Phew!
Xville
02-07-2024, 08:05 PM
Fuck yes!!!!! Win Saturday and this team is on the bubble! Huge steel balls tonight
HenryMuto
02-07-2024, 08:05 PM
GREAT defense there just unreal D on that last one.
HAD TO HAVE THIS win HAD TO HAVE IT and got it.
HUGE win
KabeX
02-07-2024, 08:05 PM
Victory beer has been popped!
KabeX
02-07-2024, 08:06 PM
Gotta hand it to Abu. Great D. Just need him to keep a little cooler head.
XUGRAD80
02-07-2024, 08:07 PM
yes!
Blue Blooded-05
02-07-2024, 08:08 PM
What a stop when we needed it! Swain, McKnight & Ousmane, especially
Xville
02-07-2024, 08:09 PM
Gotta hand it to Abu. Great D. Just need him to keep a little cooler head.
True on both! I love the intensity he just needs to turn it down half a notch
Three Point Pete
02-07-2024, 08:10 PM
Looks like Djokovic was benched again for bricking a 3. But Nemeiksa 0-4, makes you wonder.
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Xuperman
02-07-2024, 08:18 PM
Looks like Djokovic was benched again for bricking a 3. But Nemeiksa 0-4, makes you wonder.
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There is no shortage of "bricks".
XUGRAD80
02-07-2024, 08:19 PM
My player of the game…Swain.
8pt 5rbs 2assists 2steals and a couple of very key baskets. It’s going to fun watching him develop.
Ousmane easily the defensive star of the game.
It feels really good to beat Nova!
Xville
02-07-2024, 08:20 PM
Looks like Djokovic was benched again for bricking a 3. But Nemeiksa 0-4, makes you wonder.
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Could be wrong but think it may be for d. Djokovic really struggles on that side of the court right now.
Xuperman
02-07-2024, 08:21 PM
My player of the game…Swain.
8pt 5rbs 2assists 2steals and a couple of very key baskets. It’s going to fun watching him develop.
Ousmane easily the defensive star of the game.
It feels really good to beat Nova!
I will agree and add the Green 3!!!
profson
02-07-2024, 08:29 PM
Neptune masterful?
He did nothing but bring in a known sniper in Hausen...Dixon is already the best player on the floor AND drains a deep 3.
Unfortunately, this Xavier team has been a real disappointment at Cintas. This is going to be a real struggke.
Going to the zone was a good move.
atljar
02-07-2024, 08:30 PM
Yikes, some harsh words from Miller on Gytis.... I thought he was playing for Villanova and a you can be mediocre, but you can't be terrible on both sides of the ball for 17 min
Xuperman
02-07-2024, 08:35 PM
We beat Villanova..... We beat VILLANOVA.
KabeX
02-07-2024, 08:40 PM
Yikes, some harsh words from Miller on Gytis.... I thought he was playing for Villanova and a you can be mediocre, but you can't be terrible on both sides of the ball for 17 min
Yeah but they were fair. Not like he was throwing him him under the bus for a loss masquerading his lack of coaching ability like some Gnomes ... sorry ... I mean coaches that we all might know and love (to hate).
xukeith
02-07-2024, 08:40 PM
Listened to Miller post game on WLW. Miller joked Nemenska hurts when he plays for Villanova. He did nothing right all game so he put Swain in.
profson
02-07-2024, 08:41 PM
Looks like Djokovic was benched again for bricking a 3. But Nemeiksa 0-4, makes you wonder.
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What does it make you wonder? Before today he was 43.5% on 3PA at Cintas this year. Just a bad day. It happens.
SkyWalker
02-07-2024, 08:42 PM
I was on pins and needles all night long. Two observations. Great defensive effort and the big problem is not Claude shooting threes, it's Claude missing threes. He is such a great offensive player taking the ball to the basket. Why settle for three?
muskiefan82
02-07-2024, 08:44 PM
Any win over Villanova is a good win. They have owned us so I will rejoice in this victory
Three Point Pete
02-07-2024, 08:50 PM
What does it make you wonder? Before today he was 43.5% on 3PA at Cintas this year. Just a bad day. It happens.20 mins. for Gytis, 3 for Lazar, and 9 for Sasa.
Maybe an extra shift for the other guys?
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American X
02-07-2024, 08:56 PM
Honorary Steel Balls Award to Abou Ousmane for 9 rebounds, 5 blocks, and stellar defense on the last no-shot possession.
Xavier
02-07-2024, 09:04 PM
Claude and McKnight love working in the mid range. And pretty decent getting past there guy, just feel like the zone should open up the ability to get there and score more. Clearly I’m wrong because it absolutely kills our offense.
OTRMUSKIE
02-07-2024, 09:43 PM
If dez stopped shooting 3’s we might win every remaining game. He is 17/75 for 22% Stop shooting them. You’re so good close to the basket like Odom
Was. Next time he shoots a 3 if it’s not bc of the shot clock then he needs to be benched for a few mins.
xumadman
02-07-2024, 09:54 PM
Hats off to Ousmane, Swain, and Claude's defense tonight. This game goes to show that even when your shots aren't falling solid d can win you the game. Well done!
xukeith
02-07-2024, 10:02 PM
Honorary Steel Balls Award to Abou Ousmane for 9 rebounds, 5 blocks, and stellar defense on the last no-shot possession.
And a record number of fouls: 1
nickgyp
02-07-2024, 10:09 PM
Hats off to Ousmane, Swain, and Claude's defense tonight. This game goes to show that even when your shots aren't falling solid d can win you the game. Well done!
Agreed that Claude shouldn’t shoot threes especially when he so good around the basket. Final seconds Xavier defense was excellent but Nova’s failure to even get an attempted shot off was baffling. I get trying to find Hauser but not even attacking the rim? Either Neptune had no second option or the Wildcat players just failed to execute. Not complaining as X’s defense had something to do with it but it was a shock that no shot occurred.
D-West & PO-Z
02-07-2024, 10:21 PM
Haven't read the thread so I am sure these may have been mentioned but Mcknight fighting through that double screen to cover the 3 Nova was trying to get to their 3 point shooter was amazing.
Also Miller eviscerating Gytis in the postgame presser. Ouch.
X-band '01
02-07-2024, 10:25 PM
Honorary Steel Balls Award to Abou Ousmane for 9 rebounds, 5 blocks, and stellar defense on the last no-shot possession.
That's why Ousmane was named Star of the Game by Joe and Byron despite having only 3 points. His defense on the final possession was huge. Neptune didn't anticipate him being on the perimeter for the final possession. As good as Hauser was from 3-point land during the game (and being a DiVincenzo-like punk at times), he wanted nothing to do with the ball on the final shot. Not at all what you'd expect from someone on that team.
Another big gaffe was Nova not trying to foul Ousmane on Xavier's final possession. He would have easily bricked a FT in that situation and they let the ball get into Q's hands. For all the adjustments that Neptune made in the 1st half, he was badly outcoached by Miller in the endgame.
UCGRAD4X
02-08-2024, 04:56 AM
We are the Boss-a-Nova
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bleedXblue
02-08-2024, 07:25 AM
Any hear Miller's post game comments with Byron and Joe about Gytis? Ouch
XUMIOH12
02-08-2024, 08:13 AM
Wasn't pretty, but i'll take the tough W. Time to get ready for creighton
muskieindent
02-08-2024, 09:14 AM
I was on pins and needles all night long. Two observations. Great defensive effort and the big problem is not Claude shooting threes, it's Claude missing threes. He is such a great offensive player taking the ball to the basket. Why settle for three?
I know a few of those 3's were with the shot clock running down but agree that his game is getting to the basket.
muskieindent
02-08-2024, 09:28 AM
I have to think Neptune is getting a lot of heat from the Nova fan base.He might be their Travis Steele. Great defensive team but their offense struggles.Justin Moore was a non factor for them.Incredible that they didn't even get a shot off at the end . We definitely proved we can win ugly last night.
Cincypunk.org
02-08-2024, 09:39 AM
Swain is going to be an elite defender and rebounder. He has a gift of anticipating where the ball is going to be. I also love his patience on offense. He can probably start to be a little more aggressive and hopefully that develops but for now he does a good job picking which offensive opportunities are available to him.
I thought Lazar played good D for the 3 minutes he was in. He certainly has shown improvement. Now if he could just hit the wide open shots…
drudy23
02-08-2024, 09:50 AM
Any hear Miller's post game comments with Byron and Joe about Gytis? Ouch
It was somewhat tongue in cheek, and provided a laugh for Joe and Byron, but it was honest.
It wasn't a Cronin throw completely under the bus.
drudy23
02-08-2024, 09:51 AM
I will say, regardless if we make it or not, guys are getting better. If we can get ANY consistency in the post, we can beat anyone in this league (except maybe UConn).
Xavier
02-08-2024, 10:02 AM
It was somewhat tongue in cheek, and provided a laugh for Joe and Byron, but it was honest.
It wasn't a Cronin throw completely under the bus.
Meh….if you watch the post game presser it’s a bit less tongue and check. Straight up “he was terrible tonight, he really was. About as bad as you can play as a starter. We need him to play better” It’s as blunt of negative feedback that I’ve heard from Sean.
94GRAD
02-08-2024, 10:10 AM
It was somewhat tongue in cheek, and provided a laugh for Joe and Byron, but it was honest.
It wasn't a Cronin throw completely under the bus.
Meh….if you watch the post game presser it’s a bit less tongue and check. Straight up “he was terrible tonight, he really was. About as bad as you can play as a starter. We need him to play better” It’s as blunt of negative feedback that I’ve heard from Sean.
I've never seen Sean lose his shit more than he did after Gytis' last 3 attempt. It definitely was not tongue-in-cheek.
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D-West & PO-Z
02-08-2024, 11:10 AM
It was somewhat tongue in cheek, and provided a laugh for Joe and Byron, but it was honest.
It wasn't a Cronin throw completely under the bus.
Did you hear the postgame presser (not the one with Joe and Byron). Miller said he played as bad as any starter could. He was not happy with Gytis and there was nothing tongue and cheek with his comments in the presser.
D-West & PO-Z
02-08-2024, 11:11 AM
Meh….if you watch the post game presser it’s a bit less tongue and check. Straight up “he was terrible tonight, he really was. About as bad as you can play as a starter. We need him to play better” It’s as blunt of negative feedback that I’ve heard from Sean.
Yeah, sorry, didn't see your response. I thought the same thing, I've never heard him as bluntly negative about a single player before.
drudy23
02-08-2024, 11:17 AM
Did you hear the postgame presser (not the one with Joe and Byron). Miller said he played as bad as any starter could. He was not happy with Gytis and there was nothing tongue and cheek with his comments in the presser.
I did not, just heard him with Joe and Byron on the drive home.
My guess is it got to this point because Sean has been trying to drive this home for a couple months. Everyone has their breaking point. It's still not a Cronin attempt to belittle someone.
noteggs
02-08-2024, 12:17 PM
Meh….if you watch the post game presser it’s a bit less tongue and check. Straight up “he was terrible tonight, he really was. About as bad as you can play as a starter. We need him to play better” It’s as blunt of negative feedback that I’ve heard from Sean.
Agreed
For those who want to watch
https://x.com/xaviermbb/status/1755428385273049264?s=42&t=U5TyKr_wshJKowj_nNzfHg
Jumpin_Jamal_Forever
02-08-2024, 01:06 PM
Thanks for the link. I also cannot recall Miller so bluntly calling out a player previously. He mentioned playing full games and getting nothing from "that" position, meaning the "4'. I suspect the frustration has been growing throughout the season and it came out at the presser. I feel a bit sorry for Gytis that he was singled out but on the other hand, Miller's candor is also pretty refreshing. Let's see how he plays Saturday. Maybe calling him out will be a great move.
UCGRAD4X
02-08-2024, 01:45 PM
When Abou stepped out on Hassen and Hassen started to move past him, I was sure he was going to lean into Abou and put up a shot. He did lean in somewhat and initiated the contact, but since he turned to pass it, there was no call. They seem to call that if on the shot more often than not. I wonder if his teammates were somewhat surprised he passed it off and threw them off a bit and contributed to not getting off a shot.
xudash
02-08-2024, 04:07 PM
Thanks for the link. I also cannot recall Miller so bluntly calling out a player previously. He mentioned playing full games and getting nothing from "that" position, meaning the "4'. I suspect the frustration has been growing throughout the season and it came out at the presser. I feel a bit sorry for Gytis that he was singled out but on the other hand, Miller's candor is also pretty refreshing. Let's see how he plays Saturday. Maybe calling him out will be a great move.
+1
X-band '01
02-08-2024, 06:00 PM
Frankly, Miller's more blunt about the team and/or players after wins than he is during losses. I remember games against St. Bonaventure and Richmond in particular where he was very late getting to the postgame show and just lighting the team up. They even clinched the A-10 against Richmond and didn't bother cutting down the nets until the following game when they improved.
D-West & PO-Z
02-08-2024, 08:43 PM
Frankly, Miller's more blunt about the team and/or players after wins than he is during losses. I remember games against St. Bonaventure and Richmond in particular where he was very late getting to the postgame show and just lighting the team up. They even clinched the A-10 against Richmond and didn't bother cutting down the nets until the following game when they improved.
Totally agree which makes what he's doing different than Mick. But he still lit Gytis up but hopefully it lights a fire under Gytis.
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