Are we STILL booing our own.

[Emp]

Dee threw up a stinker. I get that. But did I hearing booing after the shot? Can't we just grow a pair and resist every silly impulse that comes into our mind before it leaves our lips.

The student section is fantastic this year. Love it.

[waggy]

DC Muskie is gonna go bonkers when he sees this.

[gladdenguy]

Not that I would ever boo but Dee Davis drives me nuts with his bonehead decisions. It is maddening. And with his career even 12 assists and great defense can get overlooked. Just can't trust him. I hope he proves me wrong this year.

[X-band '01]

Were you up in Section 211 Gladden? I heard Fr. Graham getting booed and you immediately came to mind.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Never boo a college athlete. If you do then you have two teeth and UK on your shirt.

[XUGRAD80]

Never boo a college athlete. If you do then you have two teeth and UK on your shirt.

It's Ok to boo teams with UK on THEIR shirt.....:)

[DC Muskie]

DC Muskie is gonna go bonkers when he sees this.

bonkers!

[sweet16]

I didn't hear any booing but I have to agree with others that Dee can drive you nuts at times. Alot of his poor decisions look like "freshman-like" mistakes and he should be well passed those by now. On another note, it was nice to see Mat and Dallas Latos back in the house last night. With the rather frequent attendance of Reds and Bengals players over the past few years it is nice to think of X games as the place to be and place to be seen.

[Kahns Krazy]

Yay. A thread telling other fans what to do and what not to do. I'm sure this is the one that will break the 1,473 thread streak of having zero impact on anyone's behavior ever.

[BandAid]

I'm a little confused because the title of the thread is worded in the form of a question, but there's no question mark. Then no one even attempts to answer the non-question question.

So I guess I'll be that guy:

Uh...yes?

[BandAid]

Yay. A thread telling other fans what to do and what not to do. I'm sure this is the one that will break the 1,473 thread streak of having zero impact on anyone's behavior ever.

I think what the front row of the student section should do is wear white sweatpants, make yellow stains in the crotch region, and have a sign the says, "if peeing your pants is cool, consider me Myles Davis."

That's what the fans should do.

[xu82]

The first time Dee had a WTF moment I looked up at the board and saw he had quietly put up 9 assists already. No one was booing from my section. Some people may remember David West once missed a shot.

(It was still a WTF moment, but nobody is perfect!)

[kyxu]

(it was still a wtf moment, but nobody is perfect!)

that's why pencils have erasers!!!

1540

[XURunner85]

I guess we should give out participation trophies and not keep score because they are all winners....(said in a sarcastic voice)

[Backyard Champ]

There was definitely booing. I was a little shocked to hear it. I do not boo our team, and some of the people I was with thought the crowd was booing the refs, thinking they missed a call on the Dee shot. Regardless, it was a pretty bad decision.

[X-man]

The only booing I heard from my seats in 104 was for a couple of horrendous calls by the officials.

[bobbiemcgee]

Not that I would ever boo but Dee Davis drives me nuts with his bonehead decisions. It is maddening. And with his career even 12 assists and great defense can get overlooked. Just can't trust him. I hope he proves me wrong this year.

Yes, he made some boneheaded plays. He also had 9 pts., 2 rebounds, 3 steals to go along with the 12 Assts. I'd take that line the rest of the year.

Some forget this guy is basically learning to play with half a team he's never worked with before. He was out for Brazil and a lot of the pre-season and he's not going to suddenly transform into PG of the year. Give him a break. He has steadily progressed and will have a great year. Besides, who else you gonna play there, and when they get 4 asst and 3 pts with 6 to's, will you boo them too?

[LA Muskie]

Dee's line was great. No doubt. And he was obviously a significant net positive. I think the only reason it's a discussion is because his boneheaded plays were REALLY boneheaded, and so they weren't particularly forgettable. On the other hand, they are the types of plays that easily can be cut out; I'd be surprised to see very many of those going forward.

[D-West & PO-Z]

The only booing I heard from my seats in 104 was for a couple of horrendous calls by the officials.

Booing the refs at Cintas Center is a time honored tradition. Xavier fans might be the whiniest fans in the country when it comes to officials. There is never a correct call against Xavier.

[Masterofreality]

Booing the refs at Cintas Center is a time honored tradition. Xavier fans might be the whiniest fans in the country when it comes to officials. There is never a correct call against Xavier.

You have obviously forgotten the Cryers and blue haired red cardigans at vd.

I still am comically amazed at that logo.

[D-West & PO-Z]

You have obviously forgotten the Cryers and blue haired red cardigans at vd.

I still am comically amazed at that logo.

Yeah but I only know they are bad because Xavier fans tell me they are bad. (I am sure they are). I dont go to many UD home games, except for a couple against XU.

And that logo is horrendous. I saw it for the first time the other day and didnt realize they had changed it and thought it was a mistake. Horrendous.

[xu82]

And that logo is horrendous. I saw it for the first time the other day and didnt realize they had changed it and thought it was a mistake. Horrendous.

I suspect whoever designed the logo secretly has Xavier ties and did a fantastic job of keeping a straight face during the sales pitch. That's about the only way I see this could have happened... Hats off to our logo designer!!!

[XUFan09]

Dee's line was great. No doubt. And he was obviously a significant net positive. I think the only reason it's a discussion is because his boneheaded plays were REALLY boneheaded, and so they weren't particularly forgettable. On the other hand, they are the types of plays that easily can be cut out; I'd be surprised to see very many of those going forward.

Not some of the shot attempts, but I also suspect some of the turnovers were due to SFA being a team that plays denial defense, trying to cut off passing lanes.

[LA Muskie]

Not some of the shot attempts, but I also suspect some of the turnovers were due to SFA being a team that plays denial defense, trying to cut off passing lanes.

I thought about that too. But every turnover I can remember was a pick-off that I think just about every college team would and could have replicated. Maybe their defensive scheme created more of those opportunities but those would have been bad passes against Northern Arizona.

[Caveat]

Booing would imply someone in the lower bowl was making noise during the game. From what I've seen the past 5 years, that would be impossible.

[XBR1]

This is classic:

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2014/07/30/u-dayton-latest-university-get-trouble-logo-redesign

[LadyMuskie]

While we're at it (and to get it over with -fingers crossed- for the season) - an awful lot of you left early last night and even more arrived late. It looks terrible to the recruits and on television when no one is there for the national anthem. Get it together, people! Some of you complained about the people standing. Some of you complained about the people complaining about the standing. Some complained about the lack of noise from the lower bowl. Some complained about too much noise. Everyone loathes, with the passion of a thousand fiery suns, Fr. Graham. But, then again, not really. What am I forgetting?

[D-West & PO-Z]

While we're at it (and to get it over with -fingers crossed- for the season) - an awful lot of you left early last night and even more arrived late. It looks terrible to the recruits and on television when no one is there for the national anthem. Get it together, people! Some of you complained about the people standing. Some of you complained about the people complaining about the standing. Some complained about the lack of noise from the lower bowl. Some complained about too much noise. Everyone loathes, with the passion of a thousand fiery suns, Fr. Graham. But, then again, not really. What am I forgetting?

Leaving early to beat that Cintas Center "traffic" (HA!) is the other time honored tradition at the Cintas Center. I am amazed when I see people leave early during even big games that are still close with just minuted left.

[paulxu]

What am I forgetting?

Dez.

[OH.X.MI]

While we're at it (and to get it over with -fingers crossed- for the season) - an awful lot of you left early last night and even more arrived late. It looks terrible to the recruits and on television when no one is there for the national anthem. Get it together, people!

Here Here! I know Stephen F. Austin isn't a big game for the casual fan, but attendance was pretty poor the other night. Especially considering it was an 8 pm Friday game! I will say the student section has been very strong so far this year! I can't remember the overflow seats filling up for a games like LBS and SFA when I was there. Also I died laughing when some kid threw the ball onto the court. That shouldn't happen again, but it was pretty amusing.

[Juice]

Here Here! I know Stephen F. Austin isn't a big game for the casual fan, but attendance was pretty poor the other night. Especially considering it was an 8 pm Friday game! I will say the student section has been very strong so far this year! I can't remember the overflow seats filling up for a games like LBS and SFA when I was there. Also I died laughing when some kid threw the ball onto the court. That shouldn't happen again, but it was pretty amusing.

One couple that sits by me showed up at the 10 minute mark in the first half. They missed a quarter of the game and then made everyone get up out of their seats during play when their tardy asses showed up.

[MADXSTER]

One couple that sits by me showed up at the 10 minute mark in the first half. They missed a quarter of the game and then made everyone get up out of their seats during play when their tardy asses showed up.

Did you Boo them? Should have.

[Juice]

Did you Boo them? Should have.

I took the coward's way out and made a snarky remark under my breath.

[Backyard Champ]

I took the coward's way out and made a snarky remark under my breath.

And they are going to be awfully embarrassed if they read xhoops!

[Xavier]

Here Here! I know Stephen F. Austin isn't a big game for the casual fan, but attendance was pretty poor the other night. Especially considering it was an 8 pm Friday game! I will say the student section has been very strong so far this year! I can't remember the overflow seats filling up for a games like LBS and SFA when I was there. Also I died laughing when some kid threw the ball onto the court. That shouldn't happen again, but it was pretty amusing.

Student section may be strong in attendance but it isn't as good as it was 2-3 years ago in terms of noise/rowdiness.

[DC Muskie]

Here Here!

Just FYI, not to sound like a dick, but the phrase is "Hear! Hear!" as in "Listen!"

[xu82]

Just FYI, not to sound like a dick, but the phrase is "Hear! Hear!" as in "Listen!"

Life is a series of lessons. Maybe it was meant like an Obama vote... as in "Present".

(Damn, I knew I shouldn't go there but sometimes I can't help myself. And for the record, I honestly never knew that was an option.)

[gladdenguy]

For the record Fr Graham still sucks and Dez is still awesome.

[LadyMuskie]

Student section may be strong in attendance but it isn't as good as it was 2-3 years ago in terms of noise/rowdiness.

How could I forget about complaining about the student section?!?!

Sometimes I wonder how we all manage to see the game while we're so busy watching and listening to what the other fans are doing.

[LadyMuskie]

One couple that sits by me showed up at the 10 minute mark in the first half. They missed a quarter of the game and then made everyone get up out of their seats during play when their tardy asses showed up.

This actually does really irritate me. I mean, play stops every few minutes. You're so important you can show up late but then can't wait until there's a timeout, or at least an inbound play, and then go to your seats. Common-friggin-courtesy.

[xu82]

It was an all-too-rare appearance for me Friday. Loved it and thought the student section was much better than my previous experiences (though one really weak event was during break). I was surprised by the number of empty seats around us in section 103 early in the game. And I will admit I was not as vocal as I probably would have been a few years ago, and that's something I will work on for future visits. As for booing, what I heard was reserved for the refs, and they deserved it. But isn't that always the case (regardless of what team you're rooting for)?

[OH.X.MI]

Just FYI, not to sound like a dick, but the phrase is "Hear! Hear!" as in "Listen!"

Noted! A little Sunday morning/afternoon "sleepiness" had me forgetting some critical lessons from Eng. 101.

[xu82]

Noted! A little Sunday morning/afternoon "sleepiness" had me forgetting some critical lessons from Eng. 101.

I had a little "sleepiness" Saturday morning. Advil helped.

[xeus]

Geez, I wish I could be half the fan some of you people are. But, I'm really important, so sometimes I show up late. Also, sometimes I work late and show up late. Sometimes my volunteer obligations run late and I show up late. And sometimes I'm justnot as interested in the Stephen F Austin game as I am in other games.

Hopefully our elite level athletes can figure out a way to win without me there the entire game.

As for booing, I don't boo Xavier student-athletes. But I also don't tell other fans how to be fans.

Should I start my own thread called "Are We STILL On a High Horse"?

[paulxu]

Should I start my own thread called "Are We STILL On a High Horse"?

Yes.

(This has been another edition of Simple Answers to Simple Questions)

[MADXSTER]

Booooooo. Either you're a Xavier fan or not. There are no part time Xavier fans. Or only when it's convenient to be a Xavier fan. Or, I'm too important to get to the game on time Xavier fan. I don't boo Xavier student -athletes either, but I will boo Xavier fans who do not act appropriately.

[ammtd34]

You have obviously forgotten the Cryers and blue haired red cardigans at vd.



This is true. I go there about 5 times a year with my wife. They're significantly whinier than the Cintas fans. Old people want technical fouls for EVERYTHING.

[XUFan09]

People do realize that at least Lady's posts are very tongue-in-cheek, right? Of course, she is mocking other people who are dead serious, so there's that.

[bigdiggins]

Can we boo the dance team?
I will boo Viking magic if they come back and unfortunately I'm sure they will.

[Xavier]

How could I forget about complaining about the student section?!?!

Sometimes I wonder how we all manage to see the game while we're so busy watching and listening to what the other fans are doing.

I wasn't complaining about it. Just pointing out its not the strong point that poster made it out to be.

[XU 87]

Geez, I wish I could be half the fan some of you people are. But, I'm really important, so sometimes I show up late. Also, sometimes I work late and show up late. Sometimes my volunteer obligations run late and I show up late. And sometimes I'm justnot as interested in the Stephen F Austin game as I am in other games.

Hopefully our elite level athletes can figure out a way to win without me there the entire game.

As for booing, I don't boo Xavier student-athletes. But I also don't tell other fans how to be fans.

Should I start my own thread called "Are We STILL On a High Horse"?

I'm going to confess. When Dee put up that dumb 1 on 3 shot when X was up by 7 with about 3-4 minutes left in the game and there was about 30 seconds left on the shot clock, and the crowd around me was yelling, "Hold up. Hold up", after Dee missed the shot I yelled, "Dee, what were you thinking?" But I don't not yell, "Boo." I guess I should have yelled, "Good try Dee. Go get 'em next time."

I will note that Chris Mack also yelled at Dee while point to his (Chris') head, "Dee, what were you thinking?"

Dee made some bad decisions last game. But he also had 12 assists. My guess is that X wins every game he has 12 assists.

[blobfan]

This actually does really irritate me. I mean, play stops every few minutes. You're so important you can show up late but then can't wait until there's a timeout, or at least an inbound play, and then go to your seats. Common-friggin-courtesy.
Yeah. I'm ok with late. Life happens. But wait for a time out don't enter the row with players near the basket. And don't sit down for 60 seconds then get back up and head to the concession stand. That's just rude.

Can we boo the dance team?
I will boo Viking magic if they come back and unfortunately I'm sure they will.
Booing the dance team is pretty heartless. Do you have any idea what it takes to be half naked in front of a large crowd when your performance is that bad?

[Xville]

the arriving late, leaving early, sparse attendance is a by-product of our non-con which is why i have been consistently complaining about it since the schedule came out. Whether you like it or not, yes some people are going to be excited by the SFA Lumberjacks coming to town, but the majority are not. This is why I hope that the powers that be realize this, and actually schedule some name teams that get the casual fan excited about going to see a game before January. If they continue to schedule like this, Xavier is going to have attendance issues every single year until conference league play begins.

Our crowd is not exactly the most boisterous crowd in college basketball so couple that with the Stephen F Austin's and Murray States of the world and this is what we get. I'm not saying that those teams are bad in any way, but let's be real, big names is what gets the casual fan excited about going to a game.

[coasterville95]

At least the Dance Team performances are mercifully short. I think one week it was like 30 seconds tops. Shame is, there is probably at least one person on that team that thinks they do a great job and that people care.

Hate to break the news - but the promotions page has been updated for this season, and I saw Viking Magic on it. Them and a coupld jump rope acts. When I saw those I thought of XH Hoops for some strange reason. Speaking of halftime shows, I thought the Olate Dogs (camps of Americas Got Talent one season) were pretty good, at least a change up from the usual Frisbee Dogs (don't worry, they are also on the bill this season), what was the take on the gymanastics tumbling act we had Friday night?

I'm in the back row, on an aisle, so I get the luxury of exiting and entering when I want, and even then I generally won't do it. If the balls in play, keep the aisles clear. I think I've been to Reds games with a family of 6 in the middle of my row. Between restrooms and concession runs, I'm up and down more than at Mass it seems.

Back to the original topic - I thought the booing was directed at the three guys in zebra stripes. We all know Dee can be counted on for at least one really boneheaded play per game. At least he has the stats, aka 12 assists, to back it up.

[GoMuskies]

the arriving late, leaving early, sparse attendance is a by-product of our non-con which is why i have been consistently complaining about it since the schedule came out. Whether you like it or not, yes some people are going to be excited by the SFA Lumberjacks coming to town, but the majority are not. This is why I hope that the powers that be realize this, and actually schedule some name teams that get the casual fan excited about going to see a game before January. If they continue to schedule like this, Xavier is going to have attendance issues every single year until conference league play begins.

Our crowd is not exactly the most boisterous crowd in college basketball so couple that with the Stephen F Austin's and Murray States of the world and this is what we get. I'm not saying that those teams are bad in any way, but let's be real, big names is what gets the casual fan excited about going to a game.

So you're calling our fans stupid? Unfortunately, you're probably right.

[Xville]

So you're calling our fans stupid? Unfortunately, you're probably right.

if i am, I'm calling myself one of them. Sorry but SFA and Murray State don't get me all jazzed up to drive two hours up and two hours back for a game...and im sure that those even in town feel the same way. I love basketball, and I love Xavier...but if they are going to be playing these kinds of teams during the non-con, I'd just assume watch it on tv. I go to 3-4 games a year but im not going to go to see Stephen F Austin when I could just go see them play Georgetown or Villanova.

[GoMuskies]

Would you be more excited if the opponent was Clemson?

I guess I don't understand people who don't want to see Xavier play quality opponents. I get now being particularly excited for Northern Arizona. I get not being particularly excited for Alabama, honestly. But Murray State and SFA?!? Those are good teams.

To each their own.

[MADXSTER]

I don't view a Xavier game as just a game. It's an evening out. Show up early, partake, relax, enjoy the game and chill as I'm leaving. If you turn it into a rat-race you will miss the experience IMO.

[Xville]

Would you be more excited if the opponent was Clemson?

I guess I don't understand people who don't want to see Xavier play quality opponents. I get now being particularly excited for Northern Arizona. I get not being particularly excited for Alabama, honestly. But Murray State and SFA?!? Those are good teams.

To each their own.

I completely understand what you are saying and yes i agree they are good teams, but do those teams push the needle for many, myself included, to go see that team live? Apparently not. When I can get to 3-4 games a year im not going to go choose to see them play SFA or Murray State.

[GoMuskies]

When I can get to 3-4 games a year im not going to go choose to see them play SFA or Murray State.

Oh, I completely agree with that. Pick 3-4 conference games. SFA and Murray State aren't top half of the Big East teams, so you'll definitely have 5 better opponents coming to town for more important games (since they count in the conference standings).

[XU 87]

I don't view a Xavier game as just a game. It's an evening out. Show up early, partake, relax, enjoy the game and chill as I'm leaving. If you turn it into a rat-race you will miss the experience IMO.

I view it as close to life and death. Show up, have a couple of beers, scream at the refs, chest bumps and high fives on good plays, win, and then go to a bar for a debriefing. I'll relax at the debriefing, provided we win. If X loses, I'll hopefully relax in my sleep.

[Kahns Krazy]

I don't view a Xavier game as just a game. It's an evening out. Show up early, partake, relax, enjoy the game and chill as I'm leaving. If you turn it into a rat-race you will miss the experience IMO.

So if you have a 6:00 meeting, and it's a 7:00 tip, you would miss the whole game rather than just part of it?

There were many seasons that I didn't miss a game, and normally got together with my fellow season ticket holders to watch or listen to away games. That just doesn't happen anymore. Some might say I'm less of a fan. If that's the case, then so be it.

Boooooo!

[Nahler]

I'm going to confess. When Dee put up that dumb 1 on 3 shot when X was up by 7 with about 3-4 minutes left in the game and there was about 30 seconds left on the shot clock, and the crowd around me was yelling, "Hold up. Hold up", after Dee missed the shot I yelled, "Dee, what were you thinking?" But I don't not yell, "Boo." I guess I should have yelled, "Good try Dee. Go get 'em next time."

I will note that Chris Mack also yelled at Dee while point to his (Chris') head, "Dee, what were you thinking?"

Dee made some bad decisions last game. But he also had 12 assists. My guess is that X wins every game he has 12 assists.

This is exactly what I noticed too. There were no boos, but there were a lot of disgruntled fans, rightfully yelling, "C'mon Dee!" and "What is he DOING?" ... all legitimate comments, which were piling up after a series of similarly poor decisions.

OK, Dee had 12 assists. Great. The team also shot 57% from the field. He also left his man open by about 9 feet on a handful of defensive lapses and made no attempt to close the gap.

On the whole, I agree with most of the posters here who have said that he's generally a net positive for the team. My guess is that Mack told him to take more chances, force a few passes into tight lanes and create opportunities for the wealth of scoring threats around him.

[XU 87]

This is exactly what I noticed too. There were no boos, but there were a lot of disgruntled fans, rightfully yelling, "C'mon Dee!" and "What is he DOING?" ... all legitimate comments, which were piling up after a series of similarly poor decisions.

OK, Dee had 12 assists. Great. The team also shot 57% from the field. He also left his man open by about 9 feet on a handful of defensive lapses and made no attempt to close the gap.

On the whole, I agree with most of the posters here who have said that he's generally a net positive for the team. My guess is that Mack told him to take more chances, force a few passes into tight lanes and create opportunities for the wealth of scoring threats around him.

I wonder if disgruntled yelling by a large group collectively just sounds like the word "Boo". How else did someone come up with that word?

As for Dee, let's not discount 12 assists. That's pretty damn good. He just needs to make better decisions.

[Lamont Sanford]

For the record Fr Graham still sucks and Dez is still awesome.

Here! Hear!

[LadyMuskie]

People do realize that at least Lady's posts are very tongue-in-cheek, right? Of course, she is mocking other people who are dead serious, so there's that.

Thank you! Your fee for interpreting my posts is in the mail. :wink:

[LadyMuskie]

Yeah. I'm ok with late. Life happens. But wait for a time out don't enter the row with players near the basket. And don't sit down for 60 seconds then get back up and head to the concession stand. That's just rude.



I agree! These people are generally the jack-in-the-boxes who are constantly up and down. I guess that's one way to work off the nachos, popcorn, beer and pretzels, but it's really irritating. It's one of the reasons I like that our seats are in the middle of the row now. Less constant up and down.

[NY44]

I agree! These people are generally the jack-in-the-boxes who are constantly up and down. I guess that's one way to work off the nachos, popcorn, beer and pretzels, but it's really irritating. It's one of the reasons I like that our seats are in the middle of the row now. Less constant up and down.

A couple of pro arenas I've been to won't let people enter from the concourse until play stops. I wouldn't be against it at the 'tas.

[X-band '01]

A couple of pro arenas I've been to won't let people enter from the concourse until play stops. I wouldn't be against it at the 'tas.

I agree 100%. Just wait in the tunnel until you hear a whistle blow.

[xu82]

Common courtesy should be applied.

[MADXSTER]

Was it bad of me for booing the student athlete from Murray State when he took out(not intentionally) JP?

[Snipe]

So if you have a 6:00 meeting, and it's a 7:00 tip, you would miss the whole game rather than just part of it?

There were many seasons that I didn't miss a game, and normally got together with my fellow season ticket holders to watch or listen to away games. That just doesn't happen anymore. Some might say I'm less of a fan. If that's the case, then so be it.

Boooooo!

I like to boo Kahns Krazy when he is not in attendance. He was a bigger fan. Every home game, every away game meeting up, and every coaches show. He had an impressive run.

I like to spread rumors about him when he doesn't show up. Tonight I told people that he was in Ferguson setting stuff on fire in the name of social justice. Then he looted the Toys R Us because Christmas is just around the corner and nothing says Social Justice like Grand Theft Auto.