Tim Tebow

[GoMuskies]

It's just bizarre. I don't know how anyone can be so terrible and so effective at the same time.

[BlueGuy]

Simply unreal. If that D continues to improve, the Tebows will be in the playoffs.

[Xavier]

All he does is win. 95 yard TD drive to win the game....impressive.

[paulxu]

The heads of the talking ESPN guys on radio ( who really hate him) are set to explode this morning.

[BlueGuy]

The heads of the talking ESPN guys on radio ( who really hate him) are set to explode this morning.

Logic leads me to believe them. I just don't see him being able to sustain this type of success (if that's what you want to call it). If he doesn't make it as a QB, he has proven that he at least belongs on the field, especially with the game on the line under 4 mins to go. I am becoming a fan.

[XUglow]

Peter King said today that the 95 yard drive was more a testament to where the Jets defense is these days that anything that Tebow did.

[bobbiemcgee]

http://img.izismile.com/img/img4/20111031/640/planking_out_tebowing_in_640_22.jpg

[Blue Blooded-05]

Tebow in the pros reminds me of Craig Krenzel at Ohio State.

Each and every game is an ugly... frustrating... low scoring... victory!

[American X]

Dads should be glad Tim Tebow exists as a role model so they do not have to.

http://www.woosk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/tebow.jpg

[gladdenguy]

The heads of the talking ESPN guys on radio ( who really hate him) are set to explode this morning.

Merrill Hoge, who sucked in Pittsburgh, needs to shut up. All he does is harp on Tebow.
I love Tebow. I read his book. He is a good guy. He doesn't do anything stupid. His work ethic is amazing. Yes, he is not the prettiest or most effective passer, but the guy wins.
If Carson Palmer had a 1/10 of his leadership abilities he might have been a good qb.

With all the Michael Vicks and Ohio State, Penn State, Syracuse drama out there.....Tim Tebow is a breath of fresh air.

And, another guy who talks smack against Tebow is none other than one of the biggest morons on television.....Cris Carter, the biggest douche analyst on ESPN.

[BBC 08]

Peter King of SI loves Tim Tebow. I therefore will do everything in my power to root against Tebow.

[XUglow]

Dads should be glad Tim Tebow exists as a role model so they do not have to.

http://www.woosk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/tebow.jpg

That was college. I would say that the press is 180 degrees in the opposite direction with Tebow in the pros. It is like they will lose their press card if they don't say how bad of a QB he is.

Tebow seems to be OK with it which is good. If he had thin skin, his head would have blown up by now.

[Juice]

Peter King of SI loves Tim Tebow. I therefore will do everything in my power to root against Tebow.

That is my motto in life too. Anythign that Peter King supports then I am against it. There may not be a person in America more awful at his job than him.

[BBC 08]

That is my motto in life too. Anythign that Peter King supports then I am against it. There may not be a person in America more awful at his job than him.

I'm guessing you read KSK's FJM style take down of MMQB every Monday then. If not then you need to start doing so now. It is a must read.

[Snipe]

Tim Tebow has brought me closer to Jesus Christ.

[Kahns Krazy]

i'm guessing you read ksk's fjm style take down of mmqb every monday then. .

bbc, stfu.

[BBC 08]

bbc, stfu.

No! I live for acronyms.

[waggy]

I wasn't a fan of college Tebow, but I love what he is doing in the NFL. Faith on display. Great stuff.

I just hope Jesus' chosen one doesn't keep the Bungles out of the playoffs. Seriously.

[X Factor]

Here's some numbers for thought.


John Elway & Tim Tebow (first 8 starts)
Elway Tebow
Win-Loss 3-5 5-3
Comp. Pct. 47.6 46.9
Pass YPG 130.1 160.1
TD-INT 3-10 10-4
Passer rating 48.8 76.9
Rush Yds-TD 92-1 550-5

[Xavier]

Wait, I didn't think Tebow has had 8 starts? He is 4-1 as a starter, I believe.

I like Tebow and hope he does well.

[GoMuskies]

Tebow started 3 games last year.

[bobbiemcgee]

Wait, I didn't think Tebow has had 8 starts? He is 4-1 as a starter, I believe.

I like Tebow and hope he does well.

Had 3 starts last year when Orton was out. He's 5-3 in 8 starts.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

I am now a believer after Thursday. 4-1 this year as a starter is pretty good.

[SM#24]

Had 3 starts last year when Orton was out. He's 5-3 in 8 starts.

while the other Denver QBs are 4-14

[SM#24]

To me, the most amazing thing about Tebow is that he has proven everyone correct. I count three groups of people:
Haters - he's not an NFL QB, he can't throw, his mechanics are terrible, he's not accurate, etc.
Supporters - he's a leader; it doesn't matter how, he just wins; he inspires others
Christians - since it's obvious his skill set is not appropriate for an NFL QB, this must be the work of God rewarding a loyal servant

You cannot at this time say any those people are wrong.

[Juice]

To me, the most amazing thing about Tebow is that he has proven everyone correct. I count three groups of people:
Haters - he's not an NFL QB, he can't throw, his mechanics are terrible, he's not accurate, etc.
Supporters - he's a leader; it doesn't matter how, he just wins; he inspires others
Christians - since it's obvious his skill set is not appropriate for an NFL QB, this must be the work of God rewarding a loyal servant

You cannot at this time say any those people are wrong.

These people are wrong. Who is to say that there aren't other Christians on the teams he plays against that are just as good of people as he is? Maybe they just aren't as vocal.

God doesn't give a shit about football. If that is the case, how come Jon Kitna never won anything?

[BandAid]

These people are wrong. Who is to say that there aren't other Christians on the teams he plays against that are just as good of people as he is? Maybe they just aren't as vocal.

God doesn't give a shit about football. If that is the case, how come Jon Kitna never won anything?

Because he touches himself when no one is around?

[Juice]

God also told this guy he was going to hit a home run in the World Series:

http://drunklastnight.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/hamilton2.jpg

[Fred Garvin 2.0]

Merrill Hoge, who sucked in Pittsburgh, needs to shut up. All he does is harp on Tebow.
I love Tebow. I read his book. He is a good guy. He doesn't do anything stupid. His work ethic is amazing. Yes, he is not the prettiest or most effective passer, but the guy wins.
If Carson Palmer had a 1/10 of his leadership abilities he might have been a good qb.

With all the Michael Vicks and Ohio State, Penn State, Syracuse drama out there.....Tim Tebow is a breath of fresh air.

And, another guy who talks smack against Tebow is none other than one of the biggest morons on television.....Cris Carter, the biggest douche analyst on ESPN.

Another shot at OSU and Cris Carter. Must suck to know we're getting Urban. Have fun losing this week and missing a BCS game for yet another year.

[SM#24]

These people are wrong. Who is to say that there aren't other Christians on the teams he plays against that are just as good of people as he is? Maybe they just aren't as vocal. God doesn't give a shit about football. If that is the case, how come Jon Kitna never won anything?

Those other Christians, no matter how good of a person they are, are not Tim Tebow.

[BBC 08]

What Tim Tebow is saying while he is Tebowing (http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2011/11/what-tim-tebow-is-saying-while-hes-tebowing.html)

[XULucho27]

Must suck to know we're getting Urban.

Why is every ohio fan so convinced Urban is going to just come in and win right away? If he takes the job, he won't have the players, the recruiting class, or the talent needed to win at the level they expect. Yea, he'll be quite an improvement over Fickell but I think you're setting yourself up for major disappointment if you expect him to turn it around overnight.

I also don't think he'll be able to replicate his recruiting at Florida in the midwest. He won't have access to the same pool of talent he had at Florida. But, whatever, bring him on. I fear nothing with Hoke on board.

edit: Sorry for the off-topic. Please return to discussing Tebow and why throwing for a 48% completion rate makes him a sweet QB. :)

[GoMuskies]

Please return to discussing Tebow and why throwing for a 48% completion rate makes him a sweet QB. :)

That's sort of the point of the thread. How the hell is he such a terrible QB, and yet such an effective one at the same time. It boggles the mind.

And the legend grew yesterday.

[XULucho27]

That's sort of the point of the thread. How the hell is he such a terrible QB, and yet such an effective one at the same time. It boggles the mind.

And the legend grew yesterday.

I mean a lot of credit has to go that D, as well. They're put in a position to win week after week because the D has held opponents to 24, 10, 13, and 13. But as you said that boggles the mind because other QB's weren't able to win with that same D backing them up.

It really does defy logic.

[xu95]

I still like watching the video of him crying at the end of the SEC Championship game when Alabama beat him like a red-headed step child.

xu95

[Juice]

Trent Dilfer should be fired from ESPN after his "analysis" of the Broncos game yesterday on one of the countdown shows.

[bigdiggins]

I mean a lot of credit has to go that D, as well. They're put in a position to win week after week because the D has held opponents to 24, 10, 13, and 13. But as you said that boggles the mind because other QB's weren't able to win with that same D backing them up.

It really does defy logic.

The other quarterbacks did not have the same defense backing them up. 49,45,29,23,22,17; points given up in Orton's starts. An average of 12 points surrendered vs an average of 31 points surrendered. That's not the same defense. If the defense had been playing like they are now Orton would still be starting. Could you make a case that the defense is playing more inspired because they think Tebow will find a way to get them a win whereas they did not believe in Orton? I could buy that. So while Tebow may responsible for the turn-around, it is not Tebow's play that has sparked it.

[XULucho27]

The other quarterbacks did not have the same defense backing them up. 49,45,29,23,22,17; points given up in Orton's starts. An average of 12 points surrendered vs an average of 31 points surrendered. That's not the same defense. If the defense had been playing like they are now Orton would still be starting. Could you make a case that the defense is playing more inspired because they think Tebow will find a way to get them a win whereas they did not believe in Orton? I could buy that. So while Tebow may responsible for the turn-around, it is not Tebow's play that has sparked it.

23, 22, and 17 though should get you a win more often than not in the NFL. The D showed up those first 3 games and gave Orton the opportunity to be 3-0. They only capitalized against the Bengals. The first numbers from your list though, you're right, are inexcusable.

I like your hypothesis too. Perhaps the players can just rally around him, and as you said that has been the catalyst for the run they're on. Whatever it is, it's still completely unfathomable to me that he is a starting QB in the NFL. That part, will always make 0 sense to me.

[XUglow]

I watched an interview with some defensive players that were saying that they worked extra hard to keep the game close, because they knew that if they kept it close that Tebow would find a way to pull it out.

[Snipe]

The young man is inspirational.

[Kahns Krazy]

I'm way too lazy to go back and look up Roethlisberger's first 5 starts, but his stats were horrible. I remember insisting he was a horrible NFL quarterback. I'm going to wait a while longer before passing judgment on Tebow.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I love me some Tebow. No hate here.

[SixFig]

My main problem with Tebow is the fact that he is so out there.

"But when you pray, go away by yourself, shut the door behind you, and pray to your Father in private. Then your Father, who sees everything, will reward you."

Making a spectacle of your religion and praying for victory in something as ultimately meaningless as football

[gladdenguy]

The other quarterbacks did not have the same defense backing them up. 49,45,29,23,22,17; points given up in Orton's starts. An average of 12 points surrendered vs an average of 31 points surrendered. That's not the same defense. If the defense had been playing like they are now Orton would still be starting. Could you make a case that the defense is playing more inspired because they think Tebow will find a way to get them a win whereas they did not believe in Orton? I could buy that. So while Tebow may responsible for the turn-around, it is not Tebow's play that has sparked it.

There is no doubt that some of the turn around is based on players, especially on defense, wanting to play for a guy like Tebow. How can you not like the guy? He is a leader and a winner. He is one of, if not THE hardest worker on the Broncos. He leaves everything out on the field. Plus, he is a breath of fresh air from the majority of athletes. .

[SM#24]

Tebow is not the son of God, he is not Jesus.
I think he's the son of Jesus and God's grandson sent here to spread the Word through football.

[Juice]

There is no doubt that some of the turn around is based on players, especially on defense, wanting to play for a guy like Tebow. How can you not like the guy? He is a leader and a winner. He is one of, if not THE hardest worker on the Broncos. He leaves everything out on the field. Plus, he is a breath of fresh air from the majority of athletes. .

How do you know this? He might be, I'm not saying he isn't but people continue to use superlatives about Tebow when they aren't in the locker room or meeting rooms. Maybe Von Miller is. The dude has 10.5 sacks as a rookie. Maybe Eric Decker works harder than Tebow. He was formerly unknown.

[XUglow]

Analysts finally got it right this morning. "Stop worrying about what he can and can't do. Enjoy the show while it lasts. It's been kind of fun."

[DC Muskie]

I have respect for Tebow and the guy just wins.

But man I hate hearing him talk. He sounds like a teenage girl.

[Snipe]

I thought he looked good today. Threw some nice passes. I was rooting for him even though it wasn't in the Bengals best interest.

Like to see Palmer get spanked.

[jwmann2]

Tebow is proving that the option can be successful in this league which you rarely ever saw in the nfl because the corners are too fast. Now that the option can be ran, are defensses less fierce than they once were? We know for sure that guys can't tackle anymore.

One of these days Tebow is going to get SMACKED on a run. But I do like the guy and think he is a great football player and an ok quarterback.

[gladdenguy]

How do you know this? He might be, I'm not saying he isn't but people continue to use superlatives about Tebow when they aren't in the locker room or meeting rooms. Maybe Von Miller is. The dude has 10.5 sacks as a rookie. Maybe Eric Decker works harder than Tebow. He was formerly unknown.

He outworked everybody in college and high school......why would he stop there?
Especially when people continue to doubt him. I'm sure that just motivates him.
He has an amazing work ethic. Whether it is the best or not on the Broncos, I don't know. But he is one of them. The same could be said for Tu. Tu has worked extremely hard. Would you think he wouldn't be one of the hardest workers on his NBA squad? I would.

Tebow was stronger than almost every player on Floridas team......all positions included. When they would compete in toughness drills before the season, Tim Tebow would manhandle everybody. If he didn't, he would make sure the next time he did.

[xavierj]

He outworked everybody in college and high school......why would he stop there?
Especially when people continue to doubt him. I'm sure that just motivates him.
He has an amazing work ethic. Whether it is the best or not on the Broncos, I don't know. But he is one of them. The same could be said for Tu. Tu has worked extremely hard. Would you think he wouldn't be one of the hardest workers on his NBA squad? I would.

Tebow was stronger than almost every player on Floridas team......all positions included. When they would compete in toughness drills before the season, Tim Tebow would manhandle everybody. If he didn't, he would make sure the next time he did.

Like Chris Mack says, talent can only take you so far, but the hardest workers become the best players. With that said Tebow has some ability but his work ethic has made him successful. He was a 5 star QB coming out of high school and I think some people think he was some no talent walk on that just worked his way up. I do think that once the robotic NFL defenses adjust it will make it more difficult to be successful, similar to what happened to the once successful wildcat plays.

[bobbiemcgee]

Jacksonville totally f'ed up when they passed on Tebow. Would have resurrected the franchise just with the Jersey and ticket sales. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Now they have to sell out to some Pakistani bargain basement hunter who will move the team eventually.

[danaandvictory]

I like watching him play and I like the idea that a guy who doesn't fit the traditional NFL QB mold can be successful. Fox and his staff deserve credit for building an offense to take advantage of Tebow's skill set, and Tebow obviously deserves credit for executing almost perfectly on the simple plays and making enough big ones to win on a weekly basis.

[SixFig]

What if Tebow had to play for Shahid Khan, the new owner of the Jaguars. Now that would be interesting.

[xubrew]

The Broncos will win the super bowl in overtime.

And will win every game between now and then....in overtime.

Tim Tebow will be the winningest quarterback of all time, yet have the lowest stastical passing rating of all time.

[Juice]

He outworked everybody in college and high school......why would he stop there?
Especially when people continue to doubt him. I'm sure that just motivates him.
He has an amazing work ethic. Whether it is the best or not on the Broncos, I don't know. But he is one of them. The same could be said for Tu. Tu has worked extremely hard. Would you think he wouldn't be one of the hardest workers on his NBA squad? I would.

Tebow was stronger than almost every player on Floridas team......all positions included. When they would compete in toughness drills before the season, Tim Tebow would manhandle everybody. If he didn't, he would make sure the next time he did.

The dude is naturally gifted as well. I don't doubt that he is a hard worker or one of the hardest workers on the team but to say that he is bar none the hardest worker is a bold statement.

I have no beef with Tebow but why do people's brain turn to turds when they talk about him. Deadspin made this point originally and I agree with it. Analysts on TV say stupid shit like, "What is there to say about this guy? He is a living testament of his faith .....blah blah blah...He inspires all those who have contact with him..." How about you simply state that he threw for 200 somethings with a 50 whatever completion percentage. That's how you analyze him.

Kurt Warner, Reggie White, and many other NFL players were highly religious. But no one ever spoke about them like they do with Tebow.

To summarize, everyone who is on ESPN should be fired.

[bobbiemcgee]

Tebow 10 pts. in last 2 minutes. Will believe in divine intervention if he pulls this one out. 58 yd FG 10-10 Bears in OT

[whiteyxu]

Tebow 10 pts. in last 2 minutes. Will believe in divine intervention if he pulls this one out. 58 yd FG 10-10 Bears in OT

This game was literally unwinnable for the Broncos. Seriously, if Marion Barber doesn't run out of bounds in regulation, they don't get a chance to tie it up. The only explanation for how the Bears lost that one is divine intervention (not really serious, but it's unbelievable). The stuff that happened in this game was not Tim Tebow willing his team to win, the Bears lost it, and I'm dumbfounded that this stuff continues to happen with the Broncos week after week.

[Snipe]

Tim Tebow also has very positive public relations.

I am amazed at how the wins keep coming.

[GoMuskies]

Tim Tebow also has very positive public relations.


I wonder if he is a gangster.

[GoMuskies]

Here's a WSJ commenter from this morning (comments section from an article about Tebow):

"I'll take a Tim Tebow over a Tu Holloway (disrespected Xavier basketball gangster) any day!"

[Snipe]

Tu Holloway could learn a bit from St. Tebow.

Let that be an example to ya if you are looking for a role model. That kid wins too.

[American X]

Doubt it was a coincidence Tebow started the game 3/16 yesterday.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS21_nMDqWmC5pWmGvLB94l25nmQ-7_thrS2UT6ARCAD2jY-Gmy


What voice could have driven Marion Barber inexplicably out of bounds? Marion Barber whose hair resembles serpents.

Sunday readings for weeks have had the same theme - "Be on the alert then, for you do not know the day nor the hour." Yesterday, John informed us "but there is one among you whom you do not recognize, the one who is coming after me...."

[xu95]

Have I mentioned recently that I f'in hate Tim Tebow? I hope Tu doesn't learn from Tebow. Tebow cries like a little girl everytime his team loses.

xu95

[Snipe]

If we split Tu and Tebow down the middle I think I could live with that. They both win too.

[LutherRackleyRulez]

I'm down with t. tebow for 2 reasons:

#1. Teboozing....


New Trend Called Teboozing Emerges



http://www.terezowens.com/new-trend-called-teboozing-emerges/



#2.This chick.....Glow material!!!

http://s4.hubimg.com/u/2066223_f520.jpg

[XULucho27]

I just listened to his "Mic'd Up" from Sunday. Dude is so calm and nonchalant throughout the entire game, even when they're down 10 with under 5 to go. I really want to dislike him, but after listening to it, I really can't. I would never be able to keep my cool under that kind of pressure. If you have a few minutes to spare, give it a listen.

Revelations From Tim Tebow’s Mic’d Up Sunday (http://deadspin.com/5868546/revelations-from-tim-tebows-micd-up-sunday)

[bobbiemcgee]

http://nationalpostsports.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/1213vonn.jpg?w=620

i think he has a new chick.

[Fred Garvin 2.0]

Tim Tebow also has very positive public relations.



You make it sound like he has sex in public.

Wait, those would be pubic relations.

[Snipe]

I just listened to his "Mic'd Up" from Sunday. Dude is so calm and nonchalant throughout the entire game, even when they're down 10 with under 5 to go. I really want to dislike him, but after listening to it, I really can't. I would never be able to keep my cool under that kind of pressure. If you have a few minutes to spare, give it a listen.

Revelations From Tim Tebow’s Mic’d Up Sunday (http://deadspin.com/5868546/revelations-from-tim-tebows-micd-up-sunday)

That was a cool link to watch. I am amazed at the whole phenomenon.

[xubball1993]

I think Tebow's luck finally runs out. He's not gonna outscore Tom Brady. Pats have the AFC East on the line Sunday. I think they take care of business and Timmy.

[XUglow]

I'm down with t. tebow for 2 reasons:

#1. Teboozing....


New Trend Called Teboozing Emerges



http://www.terezowens.com/new-trend-called-teboozing-emerges/



#2.This chick.....Glow material!!!

http://s4.hubimg.com/u/2066223_f520.jpg






New term...

Teboobing.

[Ledgewood]

Those really are some fantastic boobies.

But really, this Tebow thing is going to run out of gas. I know there's lots of bad teams in the NFL, but they're going to play good teams eventually and not squeak by some bad ones, too. This will all be a memory. Could you imagine Denver with a good QB? They're defense is the main reason they're winning these games anyways.

[XULucho27]

Tim Tebow is a terrible role-model because he encourages teens to engage in dangerous behavior. (http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/16/tebowing-high-school-students-suspended-for-blocking-hallway/?hpt=hp_c2)

[xsteve1]

Winner. What a run to take the lead over NE.

[Cheesehead]

...and Tebow and co. get steamrolled by the Pats. I guess Jesus was busy today.

[X Factor]

...and Tebow and co. get steamrolled by the Pats. I guess Jesus was busy today.

Lets' not act like the Broncos are the first team to ever get steamrolled by the Pats.

Broncos turned it over 3 times which killed them in the second quarter.

They also had the Pats at 3rd and 24 at about the 7 yard line and got called for a penalty, gave the Pats an automatic first down, and the Pats made them pay with a long TD drive.

I thought Tebow looked good. He didn't have a lot of protection today, but still made plays, and some really nice throws.

They didn't lose because of Tebow. The Patriots are an excellent team.

[Snipe]

I blame the Jews.

From the Jewish weekly:





My Tim Tebow Problem
Monday, December 12, 2011
Rabbi Joshua Hammerman Jewish Week Online Columnist


I’ve got a Tim Tebow problem.

I want to root for the guy, but I’m afraid of what will happen if the hulky Denver Bronco quarterback continues to pull off what is fast becoming the Greatest Gridiron Story Ever Told. Since taking over as starting quarterback earlier this season, the Heisman winning national champion from the University of Florida has been winning consistently and dramatically, in the final minutes of the game or overtime, relying on powerful legs rather than his infamously erratic arm and confounding skeptical fans along with the Bronco management, who, it is said, were hoping he would fail.

A poster boy of the Christian right, Tebow steadfastly thanks Jesus after every game and, while in college, often inscribed biblical messages on his eye paint. Homeschooled in Alabama, this child of missionaries turned down his selection as a Playboy All American because it was, well, Playboy. His trademark prayerful touchdown celebration (imagine Rodin’s “Thinker” on bended knee, or your grandfather davening Tachanun with a football) has become a verb. Google “tebowing” and you’ll find 84 million hits, including lots of YouTube parodies. Tebow’s mother, a Baptist missionary, became comatose during her pregnancy and was saved by drugs that nearly killed the fetus. Doctors anticipated a stillbirth and recommended termination to protect her life, but Tim’s mother refused to abort. Trumpeting that decision, mother and son appeared in commercials for “Focus on the Family” during this past season’s Super Bowl.

Now tiny Tim has grown and is on track to possibly appear in this season’s Super Bowl – on the field – and that is what scares me.


In this country, nothing, not even God, is more popular than football. Even in the wake of a summer long labor dispute, 23 of the 25 most watched TV programs this fall have been NFL games. When you combine the religion that is football with the religion that is religion, the mix can be dangerously flammable. The NFL ratings rise has been fueled in part by Tebow’s legions of faithful followers, as well as by those simply curious to see how this implausible morality tale plays out.

Next Sunday, the Broncos host the New England Patriots in a game coveted so much by the networks that NBC and CBS sparred in unprecedented fashion over who would get to broadcast it. And why not? While the Patriots are adored by their fans (myself included), to many nationwide they are regarded as the Sons of Darkness, with their perfectly coiffed Hollywood quarterback and their brilliant – one might say diabolical – hoodie-clad coach. And, oh yes, the most identifiably Jewish owner in sports. Tom Brady, Bill Belichick and Bob Kraft are all upstanding citizens, moral exemplars in their home communities, but in this Oberammergau of the Rockies, they are playing the role of Pilate.

People are always looking for signs of God’s beneficence, and a victory by the Orange Crush over the blue-clad Patriots, from the bluest of blue states, will give fodder to a Christian revivalism that has already turned the Republican presidential race into a pander-thon to social conservatives, rekindling memories of those cultural icons of the ‘80s, the Moral Majority and “Hee Haw.” The culture wars are alive and well, and, if the current climate in Washington is any indicator, the motors are being revved up for what will undoubtedly be the most cantankerous Presidential campaign ever. When supposedly well-educated candidates publicly question overwhelming scientific evidence on climate change and evolution and then gain electoral traction by fabricating conspiracies about a war on Christmas, these are not rational times.


Into the middle of it all rides Tebow. Absolutely confident that God is on his side, he comes across as a humbler version of the biblical Joseph, who, in this week’s Torah portion, audaciously lays claim to being the Chosen One, and then goes out and proves it. Tebow’s sanctimonious God-talk has led even pious peers like Kurt Warner to suggest that he cool it. Joseph could have used the same coaching.

If Tebow wins the Super Bowl, against all odds, it will buoy his faithful, and emboldened faithful can do insane things, like burning mosques, bashing gays and indiscriminately banishing immigrants. While America has become more inclusive since Jerry Falwell’s first political forays, a Tebow triumph could set those efforts back considerably.


Little of this insanity, mind you, has to do with Tebow himself. I admire much of what he stands for. His mom’s decision to risk her own life rather than abort her fetus flies against my own – and Judaism’s – values, but neither am I pro-choice in all cases. His story is so improbable that if he were to win it all, a part of me would be wondering whether there is a Purpose behind it, just as I saw a divine hand in the equally unbelievable Red Sox victory of 2004. And it makes me wonder whether other Jews, the ones who don’t happen to have advanced degrees in religion and a few decades of rabbinic experience, might be even more seduced by this unfolding drama. Will legions of Southern Baptist missionaries hit the college campuses the very next day, spreading this new gospel of Tim? Already there is a “Jews for Tebow” Facebook page.

Tebow used to wear eye black citing Ephesians 2:8-10, which states, “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith (in Jesus).” His avenue to salvation is not available to those Jews who wish to remain Jewish.

Unlike some other blue-staters, I do not fear people of faith. I fear people of certainty. The worldwide struggle going on right now is not between good and evil, but between certainty and doubt. It cuts across denominational lines: Progressive and Modern Orthodox Jews lie on one side of the divide, joining mainline Christians and moderate Muslims; and those on the other side are also Jews, Christians and Muslims; the people of certainty.

For me, only one thing is certain. On Sunday, I’ll be praying for the Patriots.

Wow.

This Rabbi Joshua Hammerman article in The Jewish Week has already been deleted. They first tried to delete certain parts, but then they deleted the whole thing, with the comments too.

Rabbi Joshua Hammererman is a college teacher. He isn't out of the mainstream. Here is his bio:

CLAL Faculty (http://www.clal.org/clal_faculty_jhammerman.html)


Rabbi Joshua Hammerman's articles have appeared in the New York Daily News, Newsday, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Hartford Courant, Jerusalem Post, Moment, and the New York Times Magazine. His column, "On One Foot," appears in New York's Jewish Week. Author of thelordismyshephered.com: Seeking God in Cyberspace and co-author of the children's book, I Have Some Questions About God, Rabbi Hammerman's Shabbat-O-Gram e-newsletter has an international following.

Rabbi Hammerman graduated magna cum laude from Brown University, earned a Master's Degree in Journalism from NYU and a Master's and Rabbinic Ordination from the Jewish Theological Seminary. He is the spiritual leader of Temple Beth El in Stamford, Conn.

This guy is not some loon. He is part and parcel of the Jewish mainstream. Even to the point, as Commentary Magazine pointed out:
"Hammerman, a member of J Street’s Rabbinic Cabinet,"

He is widely published and he is a part of Washington's Jewish inner circle when it comes to lobbying the government. Many people think that "J-Street" is the most powerful lobby.

[GoMuskies]

Gonzaga fans think Rabbi Joshua Hammerman overreacted a bit to Tebow there.

[Ledgewood]

http://www.thesportsbank.net/core/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/tebow-christ2.jpg

[xubball1993]

Snipe, where do you find this stuff?!

[Snipe]

Snipe, where do you find this stuff?!

I found that in The Jewish Week last week when I read it. It has since been deleted. It amazed me. So brazen. Some how it got pasted the editors until the backlash, and now it is down the memory hole.

This is a mainstream Jewish publication, and he is widely published. It seems like he doesn't like Christians. The fear and loathing in that article isn't hidden whatsoever. It appears to me that their may be more Jews that don't like Christians as well. He may not be the only one. Just a hunch.

Given the fact that our WASP Protestant old-money elite has been replaced by a Jewish elite, we may at some point want to wonder what the hell they want and and why. We also may have to come to grips with the fact that we have a hostile elite that does not like us and abhors our Christian culture.

Read that article. Tim Tebow could be the harbinger of the next Holocaust! Beware of Tim Tebow!

[Kahns Krazy]

Rapelisberger tried to Tebow last night before the game. It didn't work well.

[Three Point Pete]

4 for 4 in overtime. Yellow terrible towels litter the grandstand. Steelers go home and Broncos go to Beantown. Just sayin' stranger things have happened!

[XU 87]

I thought sudden death was over. Why didn't Pittsburgh get the ball after the score?

But what an ending.

[MaurerHigh]

I thought sudden death was over. Why didn't Pittsburgh get the ball after the score?

But what an ending.

If first team scores a TD, game over.

Donovan McNabb is probably still confused.

[gladdenguy]

that was awesome
Playoff wins
Tim Tebow - 1
Carson Palmer - 0 and never will

[Strange Brew]

Caught the second half. What a game!!

[XU Cowbell Kid]

I thought sudden death was over. Why didn't Pittsburgh get the ball after the score?

But what an ending.

It is a modified sudden death. The only way that sudden death doesn't happen is if the team that receives the ball at the beginning of OT kicks a field goal. So in this case if the Broncos had kicked a field goal then the Steelers would have gotten the ball back. This is only true on the very first possession of overtime. And only true in the playoffs.

[Blue Blooded-05]

FACT: The referee's explanation of the new rules of overtime lasted longer than overtime itself.

FACT: Ben Roethlisberger always wanted to get screwed by a virgin in Denver and just got his wish.

FACT: The gospel says St. Timothy Tebow will win the Super Bowl before he dies on the cross.

FACT: When ESPN loved Tim Tebow, I hated him. Now that ESPN hates Tim Tebow, I'm a fan.

[Three Point Pete]

FACT: The referee's explanation of the new rules of overtime lasted longer than overtime itself.

FACT: Ben Roethlisberger always wanted to get screwed by a virgin in Denver and just got his wish.

FACT: The gospel says St. Timothy Tebow will win the Super Bowl before he dies on the cross.

FACT: When ESPN loved Tim Tebow, I hated him. Now that ESPN hates Tim Tebow, I'm a fan.

ANOTHER FACT: Tim Tebow threw for 316 yards. The most famous bible verse is John 3:16 "For God so loved the world..."

Gets stranger!

[GoMuskies]

ANOTHER FACT: Tim Tebow threw for 316 yards. The most famous bible verse is John 3:16 "For God so loved the world..."

Gets stranger!

With a per-completion average of 31.6 yards.

[paulxu]

Can he play the 4?

[outsideobserver11]

ANOTHER FACT: Tim Tebow threw for 316 yards. The most famous bible verse is John 3:16 "For God so loved the world..."

Gets stranger!

Saw something else expanding on this how JOHN was the one making the play calls. And Tebow completed 10 passes on the night, and in the bible 10 books after john is TIMOTHY. A bit far fetched, but people can make anything sound crazy.

[XU 87]

It is a modified sudden death. The only way that sudden death doesn't happen is if the team that receives the ball at the beginning of OT kicks a field goal. So in this case if the Broncos had kicked a field goal then the Steelers would have gotten the ball back. This is only true on the very first possession of overtime. And only true in the playoffs.

Got it. I thought the playoff rule was that if the first team with the ball scores, then the other team gets their chance. I didn't know it only applies to field goals.

[chico]

Tebow's pastor's name is Lincoln and his trainer's name is Kennedy.

[XUglow]

It is 2012. Just sayin...

[xu95]

It is 2012. Just sayin...

And I still hate Tim Tebow. I hate Tom Brady to, but I can't wait for the Patriots to beat the living crapola out of the Broncos this weekend.

xu95

[xubball1993]

Saw something else expanding on this how JOHN was the one making the play calls. And Tebow completed 10 passes on the night, and in the bible 10 books after john is TIMOTHY. A bit far fetched, but people can make anything sound crazy.

Surreal...

[Juice]

Tebow has worn John 3:16 a million times on his eye black. Why didn't he throw for 316 yards in those games? Or why didn't his yardage in certain games match with whatever Bible verse he had written that day?

If Tim Tebow is the reason you have faith/more faith/acknowledge God's existence more then you have problems. People are dolts sometimes.

[XULucho27]

Tebow has worn John 3:16 a million times on his eye black. Why didn't he throw for 316 yards in those games? Or why didn't his yardage in certain games match with whatever Bible verse he had written that day?

If Tim Tebow is the reason you have faith/more faith/acknowledge God's existence more then you have problems. People are dolts sometimes.

Ok. But what about the fact that we celebrate Jesus' birthday on December 25th and Demaryius Thomas' (who caught the winning pass) birthday is also on (dramatic pause for effect) DECEMBER 25th?!?!?

Praise Tebow! #mygodisanawesomegod

http://www.oneyearbibleimages.com/praise.gif

[XUglow]

Rothlesdevil wears #7. I am sure that is for the 7 deadly sins that he embraces.

[LutherRackleyRulez]

Per 60 Minutes...

Pats' Tom Brady is Irish-Catholic...


"The temper is Irish. He was raised in a Catholic family of exceptionally gifted athletes in San Mateo, Calif"




http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/11/03/60minutes/main1008148.shtml




Thus.....

in God's (Irish) eyes...

Tom Brady > tebow!!!


btw....

tebow is a virgin & Tom has Gisele Bündchen, Supermodel extraordinaire....



http://judyhalone.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Gisele-Bundchen-and-Tom-Brady.jpg

[SM#24]

Tebow has worn John 3:16 a million times on his eye black. Why didn't he throw for 316 yards in those games? Or why didn't his yardage in certain games match with whatever Bible verse he had written that day?

If Tim Tebow is the reason you have faith/more faith/acknowledge God's existence more then you have problems. People are dolts sometimes.

Heretic

Don't worry though, Tim is praying for you.

[LadyMuskie]

Tebow 's just lucky that (for the most part) Hollywood awards season and football season don't intersect. God has a lot more time time to be concerned with the outcome of a football game since he doesn't have to decide who wins best country music artist or rap song at the Grammys at the same time. I think God did that on purpose so he could give his full attention to each. God's such a good time manager.

[XULucho27]

The Mile High Halo. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/09/mile-high-halo-over-broncos_n_1194204.html)

Definitive proof of Tebow's divinity.


Mark Neuman-Lee, an attendee of the Steelers/Broncos game and photographer of the "Mile High Halo," tells HuffPost he'd never seen the ring prior to yesterday's NFL upset. Two season pass ticket-holders also told HuffPost the halo seems to be an anomaly

He is Risen!

http://ugc-01.cafemomstatic.com/gen/constrain/500/500/80/2012/01/09/21/5s/w6/pozm5jj84c1lkvx.jpg?imageId=22902653

What more proof do you need, heretics and doubters?

[GoMuskies]

What more proof do you need, heretics and doubters?

A playoff win over Satan (Bill Belichick) on Saturday.

[bobbiemcgee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSDv-wBf1fs

[xubball1993]

Even with God on his side, Tebow does not outscore Brady and the Pats at Gillette tonight.

[GoMuskies]

That did not go well for Tebow. Even worse for the Broncos' defense.

[GoMuskies]

He's BACK!!!!!

Hey, why not? He's probably better than all the Redskins' QBs.

[casualfan]

He's BACK!!!!!

Hey, why not? He's probably better than all the Redskins' QBs.

They signed him for the 2-pt conversion since the rule is likely changing.

[D-West & PO-Z]

They signed him for the 2-pt conversion since the rule is likely changing.

If that is truly the only reason I bet he doesnt make the team. Roster spots on NFL teams are so precious that I doubt they commit a roster spot for just that role. Unless they are comfortable with him being their primary backup. Hard to see though with Sanchez and Bradford on the team.

[GoMuskies]

Well, there's a pretty good chance that Bradford will wake up one morning and look at his knee wrong, and his knee will then explode.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Well, there's a pretty good chance that Bradford will wake up one morning and look at his knee wrong, and his knee will then explode.

This is true. Maybe a hard sneeze that throws him off balance?

[xu82]

Does Chaplain count against the 53 man roster or salary cap?

[OH.X.MI]

Tim Tebow signs with the Eagles.. turn off ESPN for a month.

[xubrew]

Tim Tebow is, without a doubt, the most obsessed over mediocre professional athlete in history.

[GoMuskies]

Tebow homered in his first real pro at bat today. Biggest miracle since Moses parted the Red Sea.

[MHettel]

How in the world do you guys remember about posts that haven't been active for 2 years. I don't remember last week.

[GoMuskies]

How in the world do you guys remember about posts that haven't been active for 2 years. I don't remember last week.

I just did a search on Tebow. Figured we'd has a thread at some point. Every board in the known universe has had a Tebow thread.

[GoMuskies]

Tebow is shaping up to be a low A ball version of Dave Kingman. HR or strikeout.

[GoMuskies]

Greatest minor league baseball player ever, or greatest minor league baseball player EVER?

[GoMuskies]

Tebow is now a Rumble Pony. Hit a HR in his first AA at-bat. Seems to do that every level. He then went 0-3 the rest of the way, which also tends to be the trend he follows after the initial HR.

I'd really like for him to hit about .400 for a month at AA with 10 HRs just to watch people's heads explode.