Who Dey?

[Snipe]

-----------------------------------------------who dey!!!!!!!!

[xsteve1]

Who Dey!!!!

[Kahns Krazy]

Brad St. Louis will be looking for a job in 3....2....1.....

[bobbiemcgee]

Looks like Huber has a new job.

[xeus]

Brad St. Louis will be looking for a job in 3....2....1.....

No kidding. Geez, wtf.

[bobbiemcgee]

No kidding. Geez, wtf.

shades of Denver - Christmas 2007, froze my ass off in stands, wasn't happy.

[MuskieCinci]

I'm not even really that happy, I'm just relieved. That was a horrible offense in between the first and fourth quarters.

[Muskie1000]

at least they are finding ways to win - a win is a win - ugly or not.

[xuab]

at least they are finding ways to win - a win is a win - ugly or not.

I agree. The Bengals are at least finding ways to win. In the past, this wouldn't have happened.

[xavierj]

bad teams kick field goals and that is what Cleveland did and that is why the Bengals won. 3-1, first place, forget about this game. Hard to watch.

[wkrq59]

Brad St. Louis is being victimized by some damned smart defensive coordinators and man-over-center or sometimes just nose tackles. A damned good long snapper told me that good nose tackles and their like quickly stab at the ball when they see the center's hands tighten. The last second movement often causes a bad snap. The nose guys also clap the ground and in other ways distract the center.
That's really no excuse for a guy who has been in the league as long as St. Louis. But even the best, which he has been for years, lose focus.
Oh, he'll still likely get the boot after the season, but every time there is a bad snap the that, whether it costs the game or not, Graham will be a little more shaky.:D:D:D

[Snipe]

In my opinion the game was never in doubt.

MACHINE!

WHO DEY!

[vee4xu]

In my opinion the game was never in doubt.

MACHINE!

WHO DEY!

I love you sense of humor.

[PM Thor]

At Baltimore Ravens
Houston Texans
Chicago Bears
Baltimore Ravens
at Pittsburgh Steelers

Brutal 5 games coming up. I still despise Mike Brown with every ounce of my being.

I HATE dayton.

[XU-PA]

I've seen in previous games the referee on the defensvie side of the ball moving the nose tackle off the long snapper on extra points/field goals. Wondering why that happened and why not in yesterday's game. Anyone big on the rule book?

Also, did you hear the announcer (both of which completely sucked, we'll need to be 10-1 before we get better than that b5th stringers) slip up and say Coach Martha Lewis? Is that what he's being called across the league?

[Muskie1000]

I tend to ignore announcers anymore. My feeling is that they are there to announce the game, not to make fun of the teams they are watching - no matter how bad they are. First game, the called the Bengals, the bungles (not saying they don't deserve it) but announcers who are getting paid to be there should keep those kind of feelings to themselves and actually get some intelligent comments out there. I know, that's alot to ask.

[boozehound]

at least they are finding ways to win - a win is a win - ugly or not.

That is the big difference between this year and other recent years to me. Last year's Bengals would have found a way to lose, this team found a way to win.

That being said, something has to be done about Brad St. Louis. He basically has one job, and he can't do it. If he didn't suck at his job the Bengals would be 4-0 right now.

[Kahns Krazy]

The announcers were flat out horrible. I liked the chucklehead at the end of overtime wondering why the Bengals called a timeout with 7 seconds left because that meant that they'd have to kick off to Cribbs after they made the field goal? I'm pretty sure it's a rule of broadcasting that you don't contradict the guy in the booth with you, but there was no way around that one.

[dc_x]

At Baltimore Ravens
Houston Texans
Chicago Bears
Baltimore Ravens
at Pittsburgh Steelers

Brutal 5 games coming up. I still despise Mike Brown with every ounce of my being.

I HATE dayton.

I would be happy with 2-3 over that stretch. After those 5, it's

at Oakland
Cleveland
Detroit

Should be 3 wins right there.

[gladdenguy]

I was just gonna say dc, if they can go 2-3, to put them at 5-4, And those next 5 games, 3 are at home. A 3-2 record would be amazing. Every week I become more optimistic.

[waggy]

Houston is pretty good.

[waggy]

If he didn't suck at his job the Bengals would be 4-0 right now.

I didn't realize that St. Louis was responsible for the Denver loss. What'd he do?

[Juice]

I didn't realize that St. Louis was responsible for the Denver loss. What'd he do?

Didn't he snap it over Huber's head in an early FG attempt?

[AdamtheFlyer]

I didn't realize that St. Louis was responsible for the Denver loss. What'd he do?

Might not have been directly responsible, but he snapped the ball over Huber's head in the first quarter that cost the Bengals 3 points. Who knows how that would have effected the rest of the game, but it sure wouldn't have hurt the Bengals to have had 3 points on the board that early.

[bobbiemcgee]

Brad St Louis again....pathetic

[xsteve1]

Brad St. Louis has to go....its psychological now. Maybe they can put him on medical leave.

[drudy23]

Brad St. Louis has to go....its psychological now. Maybe they can put him on medical leave.

I heard he's been hanging out with Chuck Knoblach and Rick Ankiel.

[bobbiemcgee]

Brad St. Louis has to go....its psychological now. Maybe they can put him on medical leave.

He's like that guy on Airplane who had a "drinking" problem, or that catcher for the Mets that couldn't throw the ball back to the Pitcher.

[xsteve1]

Who Dey!!Looks like the Bengals got some help from Mike Zimmer's (love that guy) wife from above.

[PM Thor]

Cardiac Cats.

I like that, even if my BP and pulse rate spike during the games. I still despise Mike Brown. This team wins in spite of him. Coach Zimmer, enough said.

I HATE dayton.

[Jumpy]

I'm getting a tattoo of Andre Caldwell's ugly mug right on my ass. I love that country boy.

[X-band '01]

Amazing - 3-0 in the division and 1st place to boot.

In the meantime, I'm burning my eyes looking at Denver's AFL throwback unis. The striped socks have to be one of the biggest abominations I've ever seen.

[X-band '01]

They're also having fun over at StubHub - the tickets for the Texans game instantly went from $30 up to $65 for next week. Tickets were available this morning, but I'll be shocked if it's not a sellout by the end of the day.

[MuskieCinci]

We did win but it is very clear that the Bengals need to do something about St. Louis as well as Daniel Coats. That guy just cannot catch a pass. I am loving this Bengals team though. Every game is intense to the last play with no one giving up. The entire offense believes in Carson and that he will lead them to victory. The crowd at Baltimore was very loud to go along with one of the best teams in football and the Bengals went in there and overcame everything to pull out another last second victory. Who Dey!

[Titanxman04]

Very impressive win, folks. 100 yard rusher against the Ravens? Victory in Baltimore? I knew it was possible, but certainly not probable. Guess I was wrong. Hope the success continues, maybe the Redskins can catch some luck as well?

[DoubleD86]

WHO DEY!!!!!

I gotta say, I am in love with this defense. They are tough, they play tough, and without the missed tackle on Rice they give up 0 points (even with they only give up 7) against the #2 scoring offense in the NFL. We could use upgrade at safety (although I think Ndukwe could be good) but other than that I am in love with this defense.

Who thought we would out D the Baltimore Ravens in Baltimore?

I'll say it again....WHO DEY!

[boozehound]

Unbelivable. I didn't see that coming. The Bengals could easily have won by 20+ points today if they could have stayed out of their own way.

St. Louis has to go.

[Snipe]

The game was never in doubt. This Bengals team cannot be beaten again. 15-1 gets homefield.

It is like taking candy from a baby.

[wkrq59]

Snipe. Are you still Snipe? But how about that hit by Ray Lewis on Chad Johnson (that's him to me)? Anybody want to take odds Lewis doesn't get either fined or suspended? That hit was no frigging accident.:D:D:D

[Jumpy]

Lewis will deservedly get a hefty fine come Tuesday. I'm thinking something in the $50K range. He was headhunting, plain and simple.

[Muskie1000]

ok who's drinking the kool-aid now?

[PM Thor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB81kjRW6yc

How anyone can say that this was a clean hit is beyond me. Ray better get ready to open up his pocketbook.

I HATE dayton.

[Fireball]

Funny thing is that Ray Lewis and Chad apparently are friends. It appeared to be a dirty hit, but why would Lewis do that if they were friends?

Of course, he did murder a guy. I withdraw the question.

[SixFig]

Just keep in mind that both real AFC division foes have been at home this season. Trust me, things can turn quickly.

[BENWAR]

Just keep in mind that both real AFC division foes have been at home this season. Trust me, things can turn quickly.

I'm not sure of what you mean by AFC division foes being at home. Please explain.

[DoubleD86]

Just keep in mind that both real AFC division foes have been at home this season. Trust me, things can turn quickly.

I am confused as well, either way you are misinformed. We beat Pittsburgh at home but beat Baltimore in Baltimore today.

We also beat Cleveland in Cleveland.

[Fred Garvin]

this is a self edit

[Fred Garvin]

I heard he's been hanging out with Chuck Knoblach and Rick Ankiel.

And Steve Blass and Mackey Sasser. It is amazing how the routine can be troublesome when one focuses on it. Psychologists call this "hyper intention." Commonly known as stage fright. It is the reason that one guy always seems to take forever ahead of you at the urinal.

The funny thing is that focusing on the issue actually sabotages oneself. A forced intention makes impossible what one forcibly wishes. This is why Bob Rotella and his ilk tell putters to not try hard.

It is like a pitcher that walks a couple batters. You can see it coming. They try too hard and constrict the muscles. They steer the ball instead of letting it rip. In Zen they say to hit a target, don't aim at it.

[BENWAR]

this is a self edit

Thanks for the explanation. I was a little confused on your original post.

[BENWAR]

And Steve Blass and Mackey Sasser. It is amazing how the routine can be troublesome when one focuses on it. Psychologists call this "hyper intention." Commonly known as stage fright. It is the reason that one guy always seems to take forever ahead of you at the urinal.

The funny thing is that focusing on the issue actually sabotages oneself. A forced intention makes impossible what one forcibly wishes. This is why Bob Rotella and his ilk tell putters to not try hard.

It is like a pitcher that walks a couple batters. You can see it coming. They try too hard and constrict the muscles. They steer the ball instead of letting it rip. In Zen they say to hit a target, don't aim at it.

Sounds like my golf game. Bogey, birdie, double bogey, dog balls.

[Fred Garvin]

Ben War, are you up for tailgating next weekend and then watching the game at a bar? I've already bought my wig and Mauluga jersey. I look Samoan. When I drink too much and throw up I call myself the "throwin' Samoan."

And I'm inviting myself to the Kahn's tailgate on Sunday. I'll be contributing deviled eggs and Bengals Busken cookies.

[Fred Garvin]

BTW, Snipe knows nothing about football. I spoke with his brother tonight and we laughed about this. I was talking about Benson today and Snipe threw out the freqently cited stat about running backs hitting the wall at 30. He even referenced LT.

Gee, that's applicable. Benson is a guy who is 26 or 27 and sat out considerable time, yet Snipe has him already hitting the proverbial wall.

[xu drew]

They're also having fun over at StubHub - the tickets for the Texans game instantly went from $30 up to $65 for next week. Tickets were available this morning, but I'll be shocked if it's not a sellout by the end of the day.

heading into the weekend there were A LOT of Texans tickest left. i'd be surprised if it sold out by the end of the week, let alone the end of the day. Houston just isn't a good draw around here (or about anywhere really, considering NFC defending champion Arizona just needed to request an extra 24 hour extension to avoid a tv blackout against the Texans for yesterday).

with the chicago game immediately after Houston already sold out, many are skipping over houston and heading straight to the baltimore game on 11/8.

[Jumpy]

I don't think we will have to worry about Houston not selling out. There will be a run on tickets this week with the bandwagoners jumping back on board.

[Snipe]

BTW, Snipe knows nothing about football. I spoke with his brother tonight and we laughed about this. I was talking about Benson today and Snipe threw out the freqently cited stat about running backs hitting the wall at 30. He even referenced LT.

Gee, that's applicable. Benson is a guy who is 26 or 27 and sat out considerable time, yet Snipe has him already hitting the proverbial wall.

I wish we had signed him to more years earlier. I wish we had him for the next couple. I am uneasy about giving running backs 4 and 5 year deals.


I don't think we will have to worry about Houston not selling out. There will be a run on tickets this week with the bandwagoners jumping back on board.

I would be very surprised if the Houston game doesn't sell out. Say what you what about the Queen City, but we have enough fair weather fans to jump on this bandwagon.

WHO DEY!

[Snipe]

Ben War, are you up for tailgating next weekend and then watching the game at a bar? I've already bought my wig and Mauluga jersey. I look Samoan. When I drink too much and throw up I call myself the "throwin' Samoan."

And I'm inviting myself to the Kahn's tailgate on Sunday. I'll be contributing deviled eggs and Bengals Busken cookies.

Crash the tailgate!

I will be at a little league soccer game. I do want to crash a tailgate though.

[wkrq59]

Anybody wonder as I do if the hit by Ray Lewis on Ocho will result in a fine and suspension? Yeah, it was penalized, but it was a helmet to helmet shot that was intentional. The NFL Alumni list is littered with the results of hits like that and the only way to stop it is with fines and suspensions. A 15-yard penalty that kept a game-winning drive alive is too small a price to pay for that crap. :eek::eek:

[D-West & PO-Z]

Anybody wonder as I do if the hit by Ray Lewis on Ocho will result in a fine and suspension? Yeah, it was penalized, but it was a helmet to helmet shot that was intentional. The NFL Alumni list is littered with the results of hits like that and the only way to stop it is with fines and suspensions. A 15-yard penalty that kept a game-winning drive alive is too small a price to pay for that crap. :eek::eek:

Not a chance he gets suspended but I think he will get fined.

[nuts4xu]

I LOVE WINNING!!

Who Dey! Feed the Streak!!

[GuyFawkes38]

last winter I geeked it up by reading Dean Olivers book on basketball statistics. One point he makes is that margin of victory is important. It's the best predictor of future success.

I'm sort of concerned about the past few weeks. But if margin of victory is a good indicator, the Bengals will collapse at the end of the year.

At the very least, let's hope they don't make the playoffs.

[THRILLHOUSE]

last winter I geeked it up by reading Dean Olivers book on basketball statistics. One point he makes is that margin of victory is important. It's the best predictor of future success.


I don't think margin is that important in football, just win baby.

[vee4xu]

As a younger man, I had no use for the Bengals. Then two things happened. First, my older of two sons became a Bengals fan as a toddler. One of the risks I took living in Cincinnati at such an impressionable age. ;) Second, since I have been posting of a few generations of Xavier basketball chatboards, I find it tougher to give Bengals fans crap. Don't ask me why, I guess I'm just soft. That said, it seems just as likely that the Bengals could be 1-4 as 4-1. But, that's what happens when the ball bounces the right way. In some years the ball doesn't bounce the right way, then the season ends up 5-11. However, in years like this for the Bengals maybe it means 11-5.

In any event, I will be taking my Bengals fan son and the rest of my family to the Bears vs. Bengals game. I bought tickets in August never thinking that it could be such a good match-up. The fact that the game was moved to 4:00 p.m. is not ideal, but we'll have fun.

For you on this board who root for the Bengals (but do not also root for ud or UC) good luck and have fun.

[waggy]

Well they've missed out on a lot points they should've easily had. They had Denver beat except for a fluke play. They've been in every game. They may not be dominant, but I think they can play with anyone.

[vee4xu]

Well they've missed out on a lot points they should've easily had. They had Denver beat except for a fluke play. They've been in every game. They may not be dominant, but I think they can play with anyone.

No debate from me. I mean, the Bengals have used last minute, long drives to win games and Denver would have been included had it not been for the goofy play. However, teams that have to rely on last minute drives to win games too many times could eventually have the odds go the other way resulting in a turnover or not making a first down. The Bengals have to find a way to be ahead so that stopping the other team (versus trying to score) is how the team wins.

[GuyFawkes38]

I don't think margin is that important in football, just win baby.

yeah, I was thinking about that when I wrote it. Probably matters a lot more with more games.

[waggy]

No debate from me. I mean, the Bengals have used last minute, long drives to win games and Denver would have been included had it not been for the goofy play. However, teams that have to rely on last minute drives to win games too many times could eventually have the odds go the other way resulting in a turnover or not making a first down. The Bengals have to find a way to be ahead so that stopping the other team (versus trying to score) is how the team wins.

Apologies Vee, was actually responding to Guy, but was really slow posting it.

[XU 87]

Anybody wonder as I do if the hit by Ray Lewis on Ocho will result in a fine and suspension?

Lewis should be fined and suspended. Not only was it a helmet to helmet hit on a "helpless" wide receiver, but the ball was 5 feet over Ocho's head. Ocho had no chance to catch the ball and wasn't even making an attempt to catch the ball when he got hit.

[Jumpy]

Lewis should be fined and suspended. Not only was it a helmet to helmet hit on a "helpless" wide receiver, but the ball was 5 feet over Ocho's head. Ocho had no chance to catch the ball and wasn't even making an attempt to catch the ball when he got hit.

What really confuses me about the whole thing is that, off the field, Chad and Ray are good friends. I don't understand why he would try to kill him like he did.

[vee4xu]

Apologies Vee, was actually responding to Guy, but was really slow posting it.

No problemo bro. Guy does tend to be a bit slow most of the time, if you know what i mean.

[XU 87]

What really confuses me about the whole thing is that, off the field, Chad and Ray are good friends. I don't understand why he would try to kill him like he did.

I was wondering about that too. Lewis appeared to have one intention and one intention only when hit Ocho- he wanted to knock Ocho out of the game.

[DC Muskie]

Who here hates Killer Ray? I know I do.

[Juice]

Who here hates Killer Ray? I know I do.

I actually love the guy, but not as much as Ed Reed.

The Bengals should draft players from Miami.

[gladdenguy]

I find it hard to "love" somebody who in fact murdered another human being and got away with it. He may be a Hall of Famer, but he should be in jail never playing another down in his life.
Ed Reed, that is a good football player...... tough to say anything bad about that guy.

[Snipe]

Ticket window: Lots of seats left (http://cincinnati.com/blogs/bengals/2009/10/13/ticket-window-lots-of-seats-left/)

They still have 7,000 seats left. This one may not be on TV.

[X-band '01]

They're also having fun over at StubHub - the tickets for the Texans game instantly went from $30 up to $65 for next week. Tickets were available this morning, but I'll be shocked if it's not a sellout by the end of the day.


Ticket window: Lots of seats left (http://cincinnati.com/blogs/bengals/2009/10/13/ticket-window-lots-of-seats-left/)

They still have 7,000 seats left. This one may not be on TV.

Shows what I know about fair-weather fans in this town. I don't see Kroger bailing out the Bengals and the area again.

[Snipe]

I was right there with you bandman. I expected a tsunami of fair weather fans to save the day. I guess it could still happen but the article didn't sound optimistic.

[Jumpy]

Doesn't matter to me either way. I'll be down there.

[gladdenguy]

Doesn't matter to me either way. I'll be down there.

Same here Jumpy. Wouldn't miss it for the world.
And the fact that the Minnesota/Bengals game is on the day of the Crosstown Shootout in December pisses me off.
Of course that Vikings Bengals game could get moved to 4:15 or Sunday night. I don't know what time the Shootout is. I'm a huge Muskie fan, but if that Bengals are doing well and in contention for a playoff spot and the game is during the shootout, I'm sorry but I'm not going. An early December college basketball game won't keep me from that.

[DC Muskie]

I actually love the guy, but not as much as Ed Reed.

The Bengals should draft players from Miami.

Take a look at the Redskins...

I'm not sure how you like a guy like Ray Lewis.

[Jumpy]

Same here Jumpy. Wouldn't miss it for the world.
And the fact that the Minnesota/Bengals game is on the day of the Crosstown Shootout in December pisses me off.
Of course that Vikings Bengals game could get moved to 4:15 or Sunday night. I don't know what time the Shootout is. I'm a huge Muskie fan, but if that Bengals are doing well and in contention for a playoff spot and the game is during the shootout, I'm sorry but I'm not going. An early December college basketball game won't keep me from that.

That day is a killer for me as well. Not only the scheduling conflict, but a family birthday as well. I skipped the birthday party last year for the shootout, so I don't know if I can do it a second year.

If the Bengals game were a home game, I would definitely be there, but since its away, I'll probably end up DVR'ing it and going to the shootout.

[Jumpy]

Guess who got a personal call from Jim f-in Breech, asking me to participate in a conference call tomorrow with Marvin and the ragin' Samoan, Rey Maualuga? THIS GUY. They probably want me to consult with them on the gameplan, or possibly suit up to long snap. I don't think I will, though, unless they allow me to continue my tradition of pregaming with copious amounts of bloody marys, screwdrivers, cap'n n cokes and beer pong.

[Fred Garvin]

Same here Jumpy. Wouldn't miss it for the world.
And the fact that the Minnesota/Bengals game is on the day of the Crosstown Shootout in December pisses me off.
Of course that Vikings Bengals game could get moved to 4:15 or Sunday night. I don't know what time the Shootout is. I'm a huge Muskie fan, but if that Bengals are doing well and in contention for a playoff spot and the game is during the shootout, I'm sorry but I'm not going. An early December college basketball game won't keep me from that.

You are not a real Xavier fan.

[Fireball]

If I have to pick between the Bengals and Xavier, I will pick Xavier every time.

I love the Bengals, but Xavier has given us a consistent winner for the past 25 years, and the Bengals have not. So, Xavier deserves my true loyalty and gets it.

So, I'm going to the Shootout. If the Bengals play at the same time, I'll follow it on my Blackberry. But, under no circumstances will I be missing the Shootout.

[gladdenguy]

You are not a real Xavier fan.

Sorry Fred, if it was March, I would definitely choose the Muskies, but because its the beginnning of Muskie season and the end of Bengals season, I have to choose the Bengals.

And fireball, because the Bengals have not won in my lifetime, that is a major reason why I would choose the Bengals game. We just look at it in a different light.

Now, I would much rather have a final four than a superbowl victory, but don't get me wrong, that Superbowl victory would not be far off. One of the major reasons is because most of my buddies are fans of other college basketball teams, but we are all fans of the Bengals.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Sorry Fred, if it was March, I would definitely choose the Muskies, but because its the beginnning of Muskie season and the end of Bengals season, I have to choose the Bengals.

And fireball, because the Bengals have not won in my lifetime, that is a major reason why I would choose the Bengals game. We just look at it in a different light.

Now, I would much rather have a final four than a superbowl victory, but don't get me wrong, that Superbowl victory would not be far off. One of the major reasons is because most of my buddies are fans of other college basketball teams, but we are all fans of the Bengals.

Don't worry the bengals will be done with winning for a while by the time the shootout rolls around. ;)

[Kahns Krazy]

Don't worry the bengals will be done with winning for a while by the time the shootout rolls around. ;)

If they are "done with winning" after a three game stretch against Oakland, Cleveland and Detriot, it will not be a difficult decision.

As it stands, the shootout is scheduled for 7PM and the Bengals game is at 1 PM. I'm not too worried about it. If the Bengals game gets moved to 4:00, it's still not a huge issue. I'd probably roll into the Cintas Center a little later than I would otherwise, but I'm still not going to really miss either game.

If it moves to the night game, which I think starts at 8:30, then I miss the first quarter of the Bengals game.

Not terribly worried about it. I'm going to see both games. I think I should probably take the 14th off.

[gladdenguy]

Don't worry the bengals will be done with winning for a while by the time the shootout rolls around. ;)

I didn't even laugh. At least the Giants are playing someone this week. The NFC East is sure not better than the AFC North this year. Obviously, Dallas and Washington suck.
Anything New York SUCKS

[Jumpy]

I didn't even laugh. At least the Giants are playing someone this week. The NFC East is sure not better than the AFC North this year. Obviously, Dallas and Washington suck.
Anything New York SUCKS

Especially the fans.

[xu95]

Doesn't matter to me either way. I'll be down there.

I'm doing the Columbus Marathon on Sunday. The Bengals will be the last thing on my mind. The first thing on my mind will be why was I so %$^&* stupid to sign up for this.

xu95

[gladdenguy]

I'm doing the Columbus Marathon on Sunday. The Bengals will be the last thing on my mind. The first thing on my mind will be why was I so %$^&* stupid to sign up for this.

xu95

At mile 22, that is THE ONLY thing you think of. But when you're finished, the greatest feeling ever. So I'd imagine.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I didn't even laugh. At least the Giants are playing someone this week. The NFC East is sure not better than the AFC North this year. Obviously, Dallas and Washington suck.
Anything New York SUCKS

Ya and the Steelers are real great getting that 8 point win over the lions. I could honestly care less about which division is better as long as the giants are winning. The top of the NFC east looks better to me at this point. Can't fault the giants for the weak beginning schedule. They took care of business absolutely dominating the last 3 weeks. Next 6 games are tough and will reveal a lot. The giants have a ton of starters out and haven't missed a beat but it has been against inferior competition, so we will see soon.

[vee4xu]

I'm doing the Columbus Marathon on Sunday. The Bengals will be the last thing on my mind. The first thing on my mind will be why was I so %$^&* stupid to sign up for this.

xu95

Good luck 95. I have several friends running the full and half. I am sitting this one out, however. Heard this morning that start time temp to be 32 degrees.

[Snipe]

Good luck 95. I have several friends running the full and half. I am sitting this one out, however. Heard this morning that start time temp to be 32 degrees.

I blame Global Warming.

[Kahns Krazy]

I could honestly care less about which division is better as long as the giants are winning...

This could be cross-posted to the "pet peeves" thread.

You could care less? Or you coudn't care less? And what's that "honestly" doing in there? Are the rest of your statements dishonest?

[Snipe]

I know what he was trying to say irregardless of the way he said it. And I could dishonestly care more.

[D-West & PO-Z]

This could be cross-posted to the "pet peeves" thread.

You could care less? Or you coudn't care less? And what's that "honestly" doing in there? Are the rest of your statements dishonest?

Ya couldn't thanks for correcting me. Honestly is just a saying I guess, I'll make sure to not use it on the board anymore since it bothers you.

[Kahns Krazy]

Ya couldn't thanks for correcting me. Honestly is just a saying I guess, I'll make sure to not use it on the board anymore since it bothers you.

Easy there, super-sensitive. They aren't my pet peeves. I was just noticing that you had combined two of the things that other people had commented on in that thread in one statement. I couldn't liarly care more if you post them semi-daily.

[Jumpy]

This could be cross-posted to the "pet peeves" thread.

You could care less? Or you coudn't care less? And what's that "honestly" doing in there? Are the rest of your statements dishonest?

Considering that it's one of my biggest personal pet peeves,I'm pretty sure that I had posted it in that thread. But I could really care less.

[chico]

It goes without saying that you guys are going way off topic here.

[gladdenguy]

Ya and the Steelers are real great getting that 8 point win over the lions. I could honestly care less about which division is better as long as the giants are winning. The top of the NFC east looks better to me at this point. Can't fault the giants for the weak beginning schedule. They took care of business absolutely dominating the last 3 weeks. Next 6 games are tough and will reveal a lot. The giants have a ton of starters out and haven't missed a beat but it has been against inferior competition, so we will see soon.

I'm just bustin your balls. The Giants are a really good football team. Its just nice to have some excitement around here when it comes to the NFL. You just seem to be a little arrogant at times. I maybe would be the same way but in my position I don't get that opportunity EVER.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I'm just bustin your balls. The Giants are a really good football team. Its just nice to have some excitement around here when it comes to the NFL. You just seem to be a little arrogant at times. I maybe would be the same way but in my position I don't get that opportunity EVER.

I was just messing around as well. The Bengals are playing really well and I have found myself rooting for them to win the last two weeks while watching it at the bar with my Bengals fan friend. I come off arrogant on purpose a lot of times to just to fuck with Bengals fans, just messing around.

[waggy]

Anybody wonder as I do if the hit by Ray Lewis on Ocho will result in a fine and suspension? Yeah, it was penalized, but it was a helmet to helmet shot that was intentional. The NFL Alumni list is littered with the results of hits like that and the only way to stop it is with fines and suspensions. A 15-yard penalty that kept a game-winning drive alive is too small a price to pay for that crap. :eek::eek:


Not a chance he gets suspended but I think he will get fined.

Lewis fined $25K. Plans to appeal. (http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/blog/2009/10/report_lewis_plans_to_appeal_25000_fine_from_nfl.h tml)

[boozehound]

Chad OchoCinco has announced that he has teamed out with Motorola to buy out the rest of the tickets to Sunday's game so that it can be televised.

He is really overhauling his image. I am actually starting to kind of like him again. Just more proof that winning fixes everything.

[Kahns Krazy]

Lewis fined $25K. Plans to appeal. (http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/blog/2009/10/report_lewis_plans_to_appeal_25000_fine_from_nfl.h tml)


A Ravens spokesman told The Sun that he has not heard whether Lewis will contest the discipline. The fine represents 42.5 percent of Lewis’ weekly salary (he makes $58,823 for each of the 17 weeks of the regular season).

Ray Lewis only makes $1m?

I call shenanigans.

[dc_x]

His last contract pays him $22m over 3 years. He might have got $19m in bonuses and only $1m in annual "salary", but I doubt it. Either way he is making a lot more than $58k in total compensation on a per game basis - by math he makes $458,333 per game (pre-tax).

[D-West & PO-Z]

This what Chad had on his Twitter account after the Ravens game:

"Please don't fine Ray Lewis Mr. Roger Goodell, it was a clean hit, it's part of the game, save the fines for me," Ochocinco wrote.

Didnt realize he had posted that.

Here is what Harbaugh said:

Harbaugh added: "Ray Lewis is a tough, a physical guy. Ray Lewis is also as great a sportsman as I've met. He plays good, clean football. I guarantee you the shot on Ochocinco was in the strike zone. I want to stand behind Ray in that sense."

I havent watched the play again since I saw it live but from what I remember seeing live it definitely looked like a helmet to helmet and an necessary hit.

[Jumpy]

Lewis fined $25K. Plans to appeal. (http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/blog/2009/10/report_lewis_plans_to_appeal_25000_fine_from_nfl.h tml)

Half of what I was expecting, but well deserved, nonetheless.

[xu95]

I'm doing the Columbus Marathon on Sunday. The Bengals will be the last thing on my mind. The first thing on my mind will be why was I so %$^&* stupid to sign up for this.

xu95

That was a kick in my ass (but I finished). If any of you ever hear me talking about a marathon again, just beat the crap out of me.

xu95

[Fred Garvin]

That was a kick in my ass (but I finished). If any of you ever hear me talking about a marathon again, just beat the crap out of me.

xu95

Congrats. As to beating the crap out of you, are you sure it requires talk of another marathon?

[bobbiemcgee]

10 yards a carry....OCNN looking good

[Kahns Krazy]

That was fun yesterday. Good football weekend for Cincinnati.

[gladdenguy]

If the offense keeps clicking like yesterday, look out, the Bengals will be tough to beat.
This is the best defense we've had in a long, long time.
Again, this year could be exciting.


DWEST - The Cardinals.............really??? at home????????

[boozehound]

Bengals are looking good so far. I agree Gladdenguy. If the offense can play 1/2 as well as they did yesterday for the rest of the season they are going to be hard to beat.

[D-West & PO-Z]

If the offense keeps clicking like yesterday, look out, the Bengals will be tough to beat.
This is the best defense we've had in a long, long time.
Again, this year could be exciting.


DWEST - The Cardinals.............really??? at home????????

Haha, I know, I dont want to talk about it.

I was recovering from the flu while watching so I feel like I didnt even wqtch the game I was so apathetic about it at the time. I blame myself and the flu for the loss.

The Giants have some issues right now and it doesnt get any easier next Sunday in Philadelphia. On the bright side they are still 5-2 and first in the division, but the coming weeks will tell a lot for how good this team actually is.

[vee4xu]

I was at the game with the rest of my family. My older son is a Bengals fan. I thought the Bengals looked very good. When Carson Palmer is on like he was yesterday, there are few better QB's in the league. The Bears looked like the Browns to my, so that was familiar. It was my first time in PBS and I liked it. I'm not defecting from being a Browns fan, but am at least able to tolerate the Bengals these days. As a dad, I was happy that my son was happy. That may change however if the Browns ever decide to stop playing like a bad high school team.

Enjoy it Bengal fans. Oh and prayer for my Browns who are on life support.

[jdm2000]

This is the best defense we've had in a long, long time.


This has got to be the best defense I can remember in 20+ years of following the Bengals.

[muckem muckem]

Palmer looked good because his receivers caught the ball when it hit their hands. They only threw to the tight end once (for a TD). It has got to piss a quarterback right the hell off when he hits the receiver in the hands and ends up as an interception.

And this defense is tough.

[X-band '01]

Never too early to start thinking about potential flex scheduling games down the road - do you think there's any chance that the Bengals-Vikings game in December (the same day as the Shootout) could get moved up from a 1 PM kickoff to 8:30 Sunday night where NBC would be covering the game?

[Jumpy]

Never too early to start thinking about potential flex scheduling games down the road - do you think there's any chance that the Bengals-Vikings game in December (the same day as the Shootout) could get moved up from a 1 PM kickoff to 8:30 Sunday night where NBC would be covering the game?

I don't think that that game will move. Currently, the Eagles are set to play at the Giants on Sunday night that week, and I don't see them dropping teams from two of the biggest tv markets for the Vikings and Bengals. I think our best shot at getting bumped up to the Sunday night game is the week after, when we play San Diego and the scheduled Sunday night game is Minnesota @ Carolina.

[Kahns Krazy]

I thought the flex schedule weeks didn't have a night game scheduled. Did that change?

[Jumpy]

No, they've always had games slated for the prime slot those weeks, just with the understanding that they could get bumped.

[gladdenguy]

I don't think that that game will move. Currently, the Eagles are set to play at the Giants on Sunday night that week, and I don't see them dropping teams from two of the biggest tv markets for the Vikings and Bengals. I think our best shot at getting bumped up to the Sunday night game is the week after, when we play San Diego and the scheduled Sunday night game is Minnesota @ Carolina.

Good point, the Eagles and Giants game would not get moved in favor of the Bengals/Vikings. Now, the Bengals game could get moved to the 4:00 slot and that would get over a little after seven and it would be shoot out time. What a day.

[Muskie1000]

if this is the kind of sports problems we have to face - I will take it. Rather have great teams with conflicts in the game schedules than what we've had in the past. By now the Bengals already would have been done and we would have gone nuts waiting for the start of the Xavier games. The Bengals being good makes the wait a little more tolerable.

[bobbiemcgee]

http://www.western-star.com/news/lebanon-oh-news/student-suspended-over-who-dey-haircut-397088.html?cxtype=rss_local-news

[bobbiemcgee]

Sweep of the Steelers and Ravens....who nu

[XU-PA]

Who Dey baby!! A breath of fresh air and a blast from the past!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Eh5c8fE_kI

7-2 and 5-0 in the new "black and blue" division!

[wkrq59]

First time I've seen Bengals smash the Steelers in the mouth and win .:D:D:D

[Fred Garvin]

Great win. Coles looked great and Brandon Johnson, subbing for Rivers,was all over Roethlisgerger. Nuduke was solid as well.

Also, we are lucky we got away with a couple forced throws from Carson.

[danaandvictory]

Nuduke was solid as well..

Except for the part where he committed the stupidest interference penalty of all time and handed Pittsburgh three points.

[boozehound]

I can't remember seeing a Bengals team play like this.

First of all, they are good. Very good. I wasn't completely sure until Baltimore, but they have proved that they are one of the best teams in the NFL right now.

The Defense is smothering. They get consistent pressure on the QB, and the corners are good enough that we can blitz linebackers and trust the CB's in single coverage.

I am a bit concerned about Benson though. Hopefully his injury is minor because we need him back.

I think that this team is much better than the 2005 playoff team. They actually have the defense to win some playoff games. It could be a very big year for the Bengals. Who Dey!

[Jumpy]

I like what Carson told CBS after the game. They aren't nearly good enough to win a Super Bowl yet. They aren't even good enough to make a deep playoff run yet. They need to keep focused and continue to improve, especially on offense, if they hope to accomplish those things. These next three games are big trap games... they better be ready.

[bobbiemcgee]

9 straight runs 14-0

[waggy]

Things are rarely easy in the NFL. Especially for the Bengals.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Things are rarely easy in the NFL. Especially for the Bengals.

How prophetic.

[gladdenguy]

thanks caldwell and jeremi johnson for your perfectly timed fumbles. way to shit the bed Bengals.

[GuyFawkes38]

All I have to say is "Raiditude" (do you guys see what I did there. Like Fred always does, I combined the 1st part of the word Raiders and the 2nd part of the word attitude. I'm awesome).

Anyways, Wooooooooooohoooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great win for the Raiders.

[D-West & PO-Z]

All I have to say is "Raiditude" (do you guys see what I did there. Like Fred always does, I combined the 1st part of the word Raiders and the 2nd part of the word attitude. I'm awesome).

Anyways, Wooooooooooohoooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great win for the Raiders.

This is the second time the Raiders have completely screwed up people's survivor pool picks.

[xsteve1]

That Gradkowski has gotten the Bengals twice now.....pretty sad when you let that guy beat ya.

[XUOWNSUC]

thanks caldwell and jeremi johnson for your perfectly timed fumbles. way to shit the bed Bengals.

Don't forget about Shayne Grahm either.

[gladdenguy]

Don't forget about Shayne Grahm either.

yeah I almost forgot about our franchise tagged kicker

[XUOWNSUC]

That Gradkowski has gotten the Bengals twice now.....pretty sad when you let that guy beat ya.

The first time was total crap - blown call on a personal foul penalty called on Justin Smith. Gradkowski was given that win.

[Michigan Muskie]

So much to blame, don't even know where to start. Why give the ball to Jeremi in the first place? How many times has he carried the ball this year? One? So let's give it to him in crunch time. Why throw a deep ball to Brian Leonard on third down?

The missed opportunities piled high. Shayne's missed FG should never have been an attempt in the first place. Play calling in the red zone was puzzling at best today.

I love our corners but they missed a lot of INT chances today. Most notably was JJ's on 3rd down on the Raiders drive to tie the game at 17. Right through his hands. Just another example of a missed opportunity.

Finally, why travel to Oakland on Saturday instead of Friday which is what teams, including the Bengals, normally do? Did that contribute to the lack of energy we saw on the field today?

When will the Bengals ever figure out how to cover a tight end?

They did not protect the ball today. Turnovers are the greatest neutralizer in the sport. The Bengals dominated the time of possession, the stat sheet, and were the better team. Lack of focus and questionable coaching decisions led to turnovers that cost the team a game that would have padded their AFC North lead to essentially three games.

The Bengals are 0 for Oakland. Time to take their frustration out on Cleveland and Detwat.

[X-band '01]

The first time was total crap - blown call on a personal foul penalty called on Justin Smith. Gradkowski was given that win.

Ha - I still remember Marvin saying you have to cuddle guys to the ground. That wasn't the case today - the Bengals shot themselves in both feet with their late fumbles.

Better to lay the stinker now than against the Browns or Lions, I guess.

[XUOWNSUC]

Man it just sucks - the Bungles had a shot at a first round bye. I don't think they get it now. I just hope they win the division.

[jdm2000]

A putrid loss. Ugh.

[GuyFawkes38]

Finally, why travel to Oakland on Saturday instead of Friday which is what teams, including the Bengals, normally do? Did that contribute to the lack of energy we saw on the field today?

In all fairness, Mike Brown found a great deal on Southwest Airlines on Thursday night. He called off the chartered flight.

It's hard for the Brown family to pass up a great deal.

[waggy]

How many carries did Larry Johnson get? I saw only two. On the first the blockers got beat and he was tackled for a loss, but on the 2nd he looked pretty darn quick to me. I think he's got something left. I'm having dreams of he and Cedric in the backfield together, and running around, thru and over defenses.

Scott ran great today.

[Michigan Muskie]

In all fairness, Mike Brown found a great deal on Southwest Airlines on Thursday night. He called off the chartered flight.

It's hard for the Brown family to pass up a great deal.

Bags fly free after all.

[vee4xu]

Ha - I still remember Marvin saying you have to cuddle guys to the ground. That wasn't the case today - the Bengals shot themselves in both feet with their late fumbles.

Better to lay the stinker now than against the Browns or Lions, I guess.

Hold on now. That is still not out of the realm of possibility. The Raiders might as well be either the Browns of Lions so who knows the next two weeks. Hey, look at this way, at least the mighty, mighty Stillers took it in the shorts against the Chefs. So, the Bengals lose no ground in the division. The Lions, Chefs and Raiders all won today. Must be the Dog-days of November.

[D-West & PO-Z]

So much to blame, don't even know where to start. Why give the ball to Jeremi in the first place? How many times has he carried the ball this year? One? So let's give it to him in crunch time. Why throw a deep ball to Brian Leonard on third down?

The missed opportunities piled high. Shayne's missed FG should never have been an attempt in the first place. Play calling in the red zone was puzzling at best today.

I love our corners but they missed a lot of INT chances today. Most notably was JJ's on 3rd down on the Raiders drive to tie the game at 17. Right through his hands. Just another example of a missed opportunity.

Finally, why travel to Oakland on Saturday instead of Friday which is what teams, including the Bengals, normally do? Did that contribute to the lack of energy we saw on the field today?

When will the Bengals ever figure out how to cover a tight end?

They did not protect the ball today. Turnovers are the greatest neutralizer in the sport. The Bengals dominated the time of possession, the stat sheet, and were the better team. Lack of focus and questionable coaching decisions led to turnovers that cost the team a game that would have padded their AFC North lead to essentially three games.

The Bengals are 0 for Oakland. Time to take their frustration out on Cleveland and Detwat.

Ha, I was about to ask the same question.

[nuts4xu]

First place is first place.

Suck it Shittsburgh!!!

[bobbiemcgee]

Bengals not looking like a Playoff team again today.

[Kahns Krazy]

Bengals not looking like a Playoff team again today.

You must be the guys that sit behind me. The Bengals clinched the division today. A division that has a chance to send 3 teams to the playoffs. By listening to the guys that sit around me, you'd be sure that the Bengals are the worst team in football.

[bobbiemcgee]

You must be the guys that sit behind me. The Bengals clinched the division today. A division that has a chance to send 3 teams to the playoffs. By listening to the guys that sit around me, you'd be sure that the Bengals are the worst team in football.

Just saying...1st half awful....some incredible # of penalties....KC @ home...

[xuwin]

Just saying...1st half awful....some incredible # of penalties....KC @ home...

The Bengals had 6 penalties total for 35 yards, not an incredible #.

[BENWAR]

Just saying...1st half awful....some incredible # of penalties....KC @ home...

The Bengals are 10-5 and just clinched the AFC North.

Is this the best you can come up with?

[Kahns Krazy]

The Bengals had 6 penalties total for 35 yards, not an incredible #.

One of which was that bullshit penalty called after a review. I had no idea that was even possible.

[Kahns Krazy]

And apparently the Bengals/Jets game is next week's night game.

[bobbiemcgee]

The Bengals are 10-5 and just clinched the AFC North.

Is this the best you can come up with?

Mediocrity....not playing too well but Congrats

[Fireball]

I tend to agree with Tasker who said the Bengals were playing tight.

Especially with all of the Chris Henry stuff going on, I can only imagine how emotionally spent and nervious those guys were.

I'm not going to question the win. We're division champs for only the second time since 1990. I will f'ing take it!

[Snipe]

First place is first place.

Suck it Shittsburgh!!!

Amen Brother! WHO DEY!


The Bengals are 10-5 and just clinched the AFC North.

Is this the best you can come up with?

AFC NORTH CHAMPS! WHO DEY!


One of which was that bullshit penalty called after a review. I had no idea that was even possible.

It was my understanding that you could not call penalties during a review. Perhaps they make an exception for out of bounds plays, but I had no idea.


And apparently the Bengals/Jets game is next week's night game.

And I hope Pittsburgh needs us to win and we throw the game! Up 1 with a minute left, throw the ball out of the back of the endzone and jump up and down in celebration. It would be an instant classic.

WHO DEY! WHO DEY!

[Raoul Duke]

Mediocrity....not playing too well but Congrats

Please tell me you're not a Broncos fan.

[bobbiemcgee]

Please tell me you're not a Broncos fan.

Day 1 Bengals fan.....much suffering over the years....sat in the freezing cold and snow couple years ago on Christmas eve @ Mile High to see them lose on last play missed extra point....still hold grudge against Lewis Billups when Montana threw it right into his breadbasket in the '81 Bowl haha....nervous again this year....sorry if I'm not all RAH RAH about this team. Denver needs a miracle.

[Snipe]

I am glad Lewis Billups is dead.

[Raoul Duke]

Day 1 Bengals fan.....much suffering over the years....sat in the freezing cold and snow couple years ago on Christmas eve @ Mile High to see them lose on last play missed extra point....still hold grudge against Lewis Billups when Montana threw it right into his breadbasket in the '81 Bowl haha....nervous again this year....sorry if I'm not all RAH RAH about this team. Denver needs a miracle.

It's cool. I lived in Denver for some time so kind of became an adopted Broncos fan. Talk about frustrating. Fun game to watch yesterday - too bad they fell through at the end.

[BENWAR]

Day 1 Bengals fan.....much suffering over the years....sat in the freezing cold and snow couple years ago on Christmas eve @ Mile High to see them lose on last play missed extra point....still hold grudge against Lewis Billups when Montana threw it right into his breadbasket in the '81 Bowl haha....nervous again this year....sorry if I'm not all RAH RAH about this team. Denver needs a miracle.

Lewis Billups wasn't on the 1981 Super Bowl team.

[BENWAR]

I am glad Lewis Billups is dead.

So am I.

[Snipe]

I am glad Lewis Billups is dead.


So am I.

Lewis Billups (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2003-12-22-athletes-assault-side_x.htm)


He was accused of drugging and raping a woman and videotaping the 1992 assault in an attempt to extort $20,000 in exchange for not sending the tape to her husband and others. He pleaded no contest to a reduced charge of criminal conspiracy and was sentenced to three years' probation. He died in a 1994 auto accident when he lost control of a Corvette at 100 mph.

Post-NFL Career (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Billups)

At the end of his NFL career, Billups had a number of brushes with the law. He reportedly threatened to kill Jenny Chapman, the sister of NBA player Rex Chapman, whom he was dating. He eventually served over a year in prison, gaining his release on April 4, 1994. Six days later, Billups died in a car crash when driving at speeds in excess of 100 mph he lost control on Interstate 4 his corvette convertible destroying over 50 meters of steel railing. Billups friend, David Green, who was seated next to him was killed on impact, but Billups was thrown from the car and was later found by highway patrol men attending to the scene. Billups was taken to the Orlando hospital where he died from his injuries.

Then also he waived his gun at local policemen! (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1356&dat=19900105&id=lisTAAAAIBAJ&sjid=DAcEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4147,2579251)

He made the NFL All-Time All Turd Team! (http://archive.profootballtalk.com/All-TimeAll-Turd.htm)


Lewis Billups, CB, Bengals: Billups allegedly drugged and raped a woman, videotaped the incident, and then threatened to send the tape to her husband if she didn't come up with $20,000. He pleaded no contest to criminal conspiracy and died in 1994 after losing control of his vehicle at 100 miles per hour.

Have fun in hell Lewis Billups!

[bobbiemcgee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJFOBI1cZaM

[bobbiemcgee]

Who Dey?